Out Ed wrote:
It does matter to you, a lot. That much is obvious.
Where have I tried to push a phone on anyone? I simply stated that I like the Android phone that I have now better than my old iPhone and asked a simple question supported with reason? Why are you desperately hoping I have some kind of alternative motive?
In the PDX wrote:
Dupont Boy wrote:Apple was very clever in locking people into devices. The web services are a huge part of the stickiness of users. These same users are perfectly willing to sacrafice privacy and control for convenience.
If you really cared about how your phone worked and security, you would buy an android type phone which allows you to remove the battery i.e. not Nexus, and root it. 99.5% of smartphone users will never do this, so this is really a moot point.
I find Amazon music to be more than adequate. They are aware of my consumption habits, but I always use a VPN on my computer and phone, so they at least do not know where I am, etc.
We better hope the Chinese government never makes a $1trn bid for GOOG. All of our safety would be at stake were that to occur.
I've always thought Apple ran it's environment similar to how China controls it's people. I don't deny they make good products, but you are trading your shiny "things" which blind you from what is really going on.
Do you really like being told what apps or music you can or can't have on your iphone or what is force-fed to you. How much do you really like U2? You think that will be the last time something like that happens?
yes, apple had just better not give away any more free music - I will be really ticked off if that happens again.
but seriously, what music can I not have in itunes?
In the US, you don't have to think twice. Most flagship phones are $199, so why would you get anything but an iPhone?
In Europe and Asia, you can save some money by buying Samsung or LG as phones are usually purchased off contract.
In the end the question is: how much of a premium do you put on your data? Remember: buy and Android and Google gets to see everything. Your choice.
AppleGuy wrote:
In the US, you don't have to think twice. Most flagship phones are $199, so why would you get anything but an iPhone?
iPhone for $199? riiiiight
Apple users again showing how naive they are. You don't think the real cost (plus some extra skim) of the iPhone is built into your consumer-unfriendly 2-year contract? Keep living in your iTunes world.
AppleGuy wrote:
In Europe and Asia, you can save some money by buying Samsung or LG as phones are usually purchased off contract.
This statement 100% applies in the USA too.
AppleGuy wrote:
In the US, you don't have to think twice. Most flagship phones are $199, so why would you get anything but an iPhone?
When I figured out that my 2 year contract was ending and I was eligible for a cheaper AT&T plan, I changed over to the new rate plan that treats phones purchases like loans, or lets you BYOD (bring your own device). It is about $55/month cheaper in total for my two lines. 4 months later, I'm well over $200 ahead. Of course, my wife and I have phones that are now almost 2.5 years old.
I think I'm just going to pay up full price for phones when I need a new one. I'm glad carriers have responded to competitive pressures on wireless plans and no offer more transparent options that don't penalize you for NOT upgrading every 2 years.
The IPhone has a much simpler, and more attractive user interface. It is easy, capable, and simple. Galaxy is a bit more rough around the edges.
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
AppleGuy wrote:In the US, you don't have to think twice. Most flagship phones are $199, so why would you get anything but an iPhone?
When I figured out that my 2 year contract was ending and I was eligible for a cheaper AT&T plan, I changed over to the new rate plan that treats phones purchases like loans, or lets you BYOD (bring your own device). It is about $55/month cheaper in total for my two lines. 4 months later, I'm well over $200 ahead. Of course, my wife and I have phones that are now almost 2.5 years old.
I think I'm just going to pay up full price for phones when I need a new one. I'm glad carriers have responded to competitive pressures on wireless plans and no offer more transparent options that don't penalize you for NOT upgrading every 2 years.
that's what I do - bring my own phone with Tmobile.
phones **3 wrote: "I just picked up the new Moto X and this thing is amazing, it has so many features that the iPhone doesn't have and it's much cheaper. I just don't get it."It is obvious you are pimping android phones.
phones phones phones wrote:
Out Ed wrote:It does matter to you, a lot. That much is obvious.
Where have I tried to push a phone on anyone? I simply stated that I like the Android phone that I have now better than my old iPhone and asked a simple question supported with reason? Why are you desperately hoping I have some kind of alternative motive?
Being able to root an android phone is attractive to who, maybe 1.5% of the population? I drank the koolaid and switched to a G3 last year and gave it a shot. The whole time I kept asking myself was "why". It has nothing to do with lazy but really came down to common sense. Having several different places to get your apps is not an advantage, it's more confusing if anything. Don't like iTunes? That's fine but I'm almost 50 years old. I have 4000 songs, I can hear the song I want to hear, I can make playlists and it shuffles, what the F more do I need? I notice more cracked screens on the android phones than the iPhone. One reason may be because the repair places can concentrate on 2-3 different screens vs the 34 different android phones that are currently out. I returned the G3 and said "never again".
agip wrote:
for me, it's simply itunes. I use itunes a huge amount and don't want to have to deal with some third party app to try to get all my music and podcasts on to an android phone.
You can use the Samsung app on a Samsung.
I really don't see why the "closed system" is any different to an Android because basically the manufacturers have designed them to be easy to use.
dude, really? wrote:
Being able to root an android phone is attractive to who, maybe 1.5% of the population? I drank the koolaid and switched to a G3 last year and gave it a shot. The whole time I kept asking myself was "why". It has nothing to do with lazy but really came down to common sense. Having several different places to get your apps is not an advantage, it's more confusing if anything. Don't like iTunes? That's fine but I'm almost 50 years old. I have 4000 songs, I can hear the song I want to hear, I can make playlists and it shuffles, what the F more do I need? I notice more cracked screens on the android phones than the iPhone. One reason may be because the repair places can concentrate on 2-3 different screens vs the 34 different android phones that are currently out. I returned the G3 and said "never again".
That's odd that you had a G3 last year, I believe the phone only came out a few months ago.
oh really wrote:
dude, really? wrote:Being able to root an android phone is attractive to who, maybe 1.5% of the population? I drank the koolaid and switched to a G3 last year and gave it a shot. The whole time I kept asking myself was "why". It has nothing to do with lazy but really came down to common sense. Having several different places to get your apps is not an advantage, it's more confusing if anything. Don't like iTunes? That's fine but I'm almost 50 years old. I have 4000 songs, I can hear the song I want to hear, I can make playlists and it shuffles, what the F more do I need? I notice more cracked screens on the android phones than the iPhone. One reason may be because the repair places can concentrate on 2-3 different screens vs the 34 different android phones that are currently out. I returned the G3 and said "never again".
That's odd that you had a G3 last year, I believe the phone only came out a few months ago.
lol...
oh really wrote:
dude, really? wrote:Being able to root an android phone is attractive to who, maybe 1.5% of the population? I drank the koolaid and switched to a G3 last year and gave it a shot. The whole time I kept asking myself was "why". It has nothing to do with lazy but really came down to common sense. Having several different places to get your apps is not an advantage, it's more confusing if anything. Don't like iTunes? That's fine but I'm almost 50 years old. I have 4000 songs, I can hear the song I want to hear, I can make playlists and it shuffles, what the F more do I need? I notice more cracked screens on the android phones than the iPhone. One reason may be because the repair places can concentrate on 2-3 different screens vs the 34 different android phones that are currently out. I returned the G3 and said "never again".
That's odd that you had a G3 last year, I believe the phone only came out a few months ago.
Galaxy S3....sorry, story still applies
dude, really? wrote:
Galaxy S3....sorry, story still applies
Yeah I don't blame you for not liking that phone, samsung has good advertising but I can't stand their products and what they do to android. They are ruining android as far as I'm concerned. But if you didn't like the LG G3 I would say then android is not for you. I stay further away from Samsung than I do Apple, which is saying a lot.
agip wrote:
does anyone have a response from the pro android point of view on how easy/hard it is to use itunes in android?
meaning, moving my entire library over to android and then buying music in itunes for my pc and moving it over to my android phone and keeping them synced?
it sounds like a nightmare.
I know others have given you answers, but I'll throw mine in as well.
I use an app called synctunes. I think I had to pay $1.99 for it, but I'm not sure. It's very easy to use to add itunes music from your laptop/computer to your Android.
While in itunes you just drag any music you want to the synctunes folder that gets put on itunes. Turn wifi on on your phone & open synctunes on your laptop and hit sync. Done. I've never had a problem with some songs not being able to be played.
It is very easy to root an android phone and install a perfectly stable ROM so you don't share info with Android. People don't do it because they are afraid of bricking their phone (increasingly less likely) and voiding their warranties.
Everybody has different priorities. Ease of use vs flexibility vs privacy vs disaster recovery. These are benefits which each of us weighs differently.
I like anonymity, control, and flexibility. I rooted my HTC, and I use linux. That puts me in a small subset of users. But I would reckon the, "Apple or nothing" subset is equally small. We are all technology heretics in some way.
Windows 10 was announced today. Sounds like it will run natively on phones. Watch out iOS and watch out Android. Developers will now be able to write an app for Windows and it's code base will seamlessly work on phones, tablets, laptops and desktop PCs all the same. One chuck of code for all devices. Seamless integration across all devices. MS, Apple, and Google are all going for this in one way or another, but MS is the closet to achieving it.
MS scrapped Win 9. Oops. The odd numbered OSes were okay. The even numbered ones are disasters. Win 10 = MS Bob, Win Me, Vista, and 8: disasters.
"Deeming Windows 9 'too good to release,' Microsoft execs shelve follow-up to Windows 8 and proceed to Windows 10"