Does anyone really think that an elite trying to win a race is worried about having the greatest finish ever?
Do you think they are concerned that people might belittle their accomplishment if it doesn't have a certain time over the last lap relative to the previous laps?
They are racing, something the v man has never experienced at even the lowest level.
ventolin^3 wrote:
lol lol lol lol wrote:Yes. And Aouita was commonly quoted as running the last 100 of his first foray under 3:30 in 11.6, when it was actually about 1.5 seconds slowerno
vid shows he is ~ 1.5m ahead of a faint track marking as clock with 0.01s error flickers to 3'17 ->
~ 12.89
his last 400 shows him ~ 6.5m behind 1100 when clock flickers to 2'36 ->
~ 52.78
Blind as well as stupid I see.
How can you offer a split for a moving last 100m to the nearest 1/100th, when they don't even show tenths on the screen clock? Moron.
It's plain as anything that Aouita is over the 90m line when the clock just moves to 3:18, meaning he actually reaches it more like 3:17.9, giving him a last 90m of 11.8. This is = to 13.1 for last 100m.
The 100m line is on the track but faint, and Cram hits that as the clock turns to 3:16. This means he covers the last 100m in 13.6, which ties in with the official IAAF split for him of 13.7.
At that point Aouita is no more than 2 strides, 4m or 0.5 secs behind him.
That again comes to a 13.1 last 100 for Aouita.
Gonzales is 1m past the 100m line when it flicks round to 3:17, meaning he hits it around 3:16.8. So he's about 6m behind Cram, and a stride, or 2m behind Aouita, who is therefore 2/3 of the way between Cram & Gonzales. 2/3 of 0.8 is 0.5. So whichever way you look at it, Aouita's last 100 is certainly outside 13.0 and more like 13.1.
Dictionary required... wrote:
[...]
For anyone interesting in the current race being debated here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5WWWLOMNEThe last 700m is incredibly fast!
You, Sir, are the real MVP! This vid is awesome. Very interesting to see--the jerseys, the appearances of the individual athletes (Willis, Kiprop and Souleiman seem to be looking more handsome and stronger than usual), the finish, the handshakes after... GREAT!
Welsh Wizard wrote:I'm 57 you old fool, so was old enough to know what was going on in the 70s thank you
utter drivel
you are kid hardly born in '70s who has added this handle to another 1/2 dozen you use
Have no idea what you're waffling on about re Kasheef Hassan. Don't recall ever mentioning him on here.
the drivel you claimed under another handle of disputing conjecture of coe going into 44s in his race v kasheef
you were hardly born when this race was run & have no clue about the sporting opinion current at that time
Peer Mediator wrote:Blind as well as stupid I see
from an idiot incapable of analysis
How can you offer a split for a moving last 100m to the nearest 1/100th, when they don't even show tenths on the screen clock? Moron
fool
your peabrain not see "~" sign
i've given it to 0.01s based on vid evidence & anyone can add their error
It's plain as anything that Aouita is over the 90m line when the clock just moves to 3:18, meaning he actually reaches it more like 3:17.9, giving him a last 90m of 11.8. This is = to 13.1 for last 100m
moron
what is this drivel ???
does your peabrain not have the neurones to comprehend that if you can identify the 100m line, no matter how faint, you don't go looking for a 90m line
aouita reachs the 100m line before clock changes to 3'17, meaning 3'16.9+
that means
~ 12.8+
& i gave him slowest of 12.89
The 100m line is on the track but faint, and Cram hits that as the clock turns to 3:16. This means he covers the last 100m in 13.6, which ties in with the official IAAF split for him of 13.7
i get 13.5-high
At that point Aouita is no more than 2 strides, 4m or 0.5 secs behind him
nonsense
it is more like 5m back
That again comes to a 13.1 last 100 for Aouita
nonsense
it is 12.8+
Gonzales is 1m past the 100m line when it flicks round to 3:17, meaning he hits it around 3:16.8.
nonsense
jose has not even reached 100m mark & clock already shows 3'17
So he's about 6m behind Cram, and a stride, or 2m behind Aouita, who is therefore 2/3 of the way between Cram & Gonzales. 2/3 of 0.8 is 0.5.
your whole argument is nonsense
you have got the wrong position/time for jose
So whichever way you look at it, Aouita's last 100 is certainly outside 13.0 and more like 13.1
utter drivel
it is 12.8+
12.89
at worst
Ventolin,
Your dumb.
Your Welcome.
Kipketer_Pumpkin_Eater wrote:
Dictionary required... wrote:[...]
For anyone interesting in the current race being debated here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5WWWLOMNEThe last 700m is incredibly fast!
You, Sir, are the real MVP! This vid is awesome. Very interesting to see--the jerseys, the appearances of the individual athletes (Willis, Kiprop and Souleiman seem to be looking more handsome and stronger than usual), the finish, the handshakes after... GREAT!
Bump... Let's try to appreciate the race? And have some enjoyment? think the detour that this has devolved in at least needs to be speckled/broken with/interspersed with some fresh enthusiasm in the here and now rather than excessive, complex painstaking historical speculation/comparison studies.
You're an utter moron. Keep deluding yourself.
I have one handle and was in my 20's when Coe ran that 400. No one in any of the media or press at the time was talking about sub 45. I was living in the UK and probably was more well read than you, living in whichever poor country had the misfortune of taking you in.
You're an ignorant k*ob.
ventolin^3 wrote:
jose has not even reached 100m mark & clock already shows 3'17
Should have gone to Specsavers fool!
Gonzales is over the 100 line with the clock clearly on 3:16. Doesnt change to 3:17 until he's a stride past it. That's 2m or at least 0.2, so he hit 100 to go in 3:16.8. Aouita is a stride ahead of that so he hits 100 in 3:16.6. Thats 13.1.
12.8 is way off.
moron alert wrote:Should have gone to Specsavers fool!
idiot
they won't help you stoopid
Gonzales is over the 100 line with the clock clearly on 3:16. Doesnt change to 3:17 until he's a stride past it
drivel
your freeze-frame isn't good enough
jose's torso is on 100m line & clock has flickered to 3'17
That's 2m or at least 0.2, so he hit 100 to go in 3:16.8
nonsense
Aouita is a stride ahead of that so he hits 100 in 3:16.6
nonsense
he is ~ 1.5 ahead
that means 3'17.0 with 98.5m to go
Thats 13.1
it's 12.90
]12.8 is way off
nonsense
it's 0.1s off at most
Welsh Wizard wrote:You're an utter moron. Keep deluding yourself
from an idiot with 1/2 dozen other handles
I have one handle and was in my 20's when Coe ran that 400
utter drivel
you were hardly born in '70s
No one in any of the media or press at the time was talking about sub 45
complete crap
this shows you were hardly born in '70s & have no clue about the era
after he smashed wr from 1'43.4 to 1'42.3 the media & intelligent adult fans were speculating that jenkins 44.9nr was easily within his sights & even honz's 44.7 euro record
your peabrain doesn't seem to know that no one in press considered him a 800/1500 guy after running 800wr with a pathetic 3'57pb for mile
they considered him a 800/400 guy if not a pure 800 guy
it was only after his walloping by kasheef that any great 400 potential was consigned to bin & more thought given to his 1500/mile potential
to not know this shows you haven't a clue about the era
I was living in the UK and probably was more well read than you
moron
you were hardly out of diapers
colouring-in books were your literature
living in whichever poor country had the misfortune of taking you in
1st world
You're an ignorant k*ob
& you are a clueless idiot hardly born in '70s talking about an era you have no clue about as an adult, experienced fan at the time