SMJO wrote:All of those factors can be beneficial rather than detrimental to performance, particularly for a guy like Ryun.
utter total drivel
SMJO wrote:All of those factors can be beneficial rather than detrimental to performance, particularly for a guy like Ryun.
utter total drivel
wtfunny wrote:Without getting into all the detail .. more importantly, granting, say, Ryun, a 3:24 without adding in factors like modern levels of competition, training and coaching, diet, psychology, understanding of peaking and rest and so on, and all the other critical factors that go towards peak athletic performance must add even a few more seconds to this drop .. making his 3:24 more comparable today to something well under that mark.
Nonsense.
it is clear you are incapable of any logical analysis whatsoever
Has anyone mentioned yet that dirt and cinder tracks can both slow one down by different amounts depending on how the runner caresses the track and/or pushes off, by the condition of the track, the type of track and where in the meet the race is scheduled? Billy Mills may have won the Tokyo race partly because when he was pushed out into that outer lane he realized that it was firmer out there. Lane one was chewed up and loose because it had rained some that morning and his race was being held at the end of the meet. Because he was made to realize that he finished that race in a middle lane.
Ones running leg action can also provide better push off or add to slippage.
Bob Schul's Tokyo 5,000 meter race was run in rain and on a rain soaked track that had already been raced on.
The inside lanes were often a mess after the first race of a meet in those days and that goes especially if the weather was bad.
There were meets in which the track was rolled in the middle of the meet..
Your dedication is admirable but no, Ryun and Keino could not run any of those times.
ventolin^3 wrote:
SMJO wrote:All of those factors can be beneficial rather than detrimental to performance, particularly for a guy like Ryun.utter total drivel
There is simply no way you have ever raced.
SMJO wrote:Your dedication is admirable but no, Ryun and Keino could not run any of those times.
fool
it is clear you are incapable of any logical numerical analysis whatsoever
if you know physiology better than tim noakes who claims keino couda been as fast as 3'42, then offer it
SMJO wrote:There is simply no way you have ever raced.
the dumbest argument ever offered
are you going to tell me about your experiences of running 1'40.91 &/or 3'26.00 ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBb7-hiIfCMventolin^3 wrote:
are you going to tell me about your experiences of running 1'40.91 &/or 3'26.00 ???
John Whetton who was 5th in the 1500m said he could not understand why Ryun let Keino get so far ahead. There is one thing not to go at a suicidal pace but to get dropped completely is just running for 2nd place
ventolin^3 wrote:
a 46.9 for 440y on a quagmire unfit to lj on & after a 3'55 mile in his legs !!!
A 3:55 mile isn't taking much out of Ryun, a veritable jog for a guy capable of 3:42
ventolin^3 wrote:
SMJO wrote:Your dedication is admirable but no, Ryun and Keino could not run any of those times.fool
it is clear you are incapable of any logical numerical analysis whatsoever
if you know physiology better than tim noakes who claims keino couda been as fast as 3'42, then offer it
My numerical analysis is highly accurate. Their actual times not fantasy numbers.
Noakes has a similar actual competition experience as you do. Little to none.
Mr. Obvious wrote:A 3:55 mile isn't taking much out of Ryun, a veritable jog for a guy capable of 3:42
you can't seem to read
that 3'55 was on a quagmire which was obviously in coe's stated 2 - 3s/lap for sodden tracks
that means that 3'55 was a conservative 3'47 at aged 18y !!!
a 46.9 to follow
if you don't think a 3'47 woud take something out of an 18y ole's legs for a later 440y, then you are completely clueless
SMJO wrote:My numerical analysis is highly accurate
utter nonsense
all i ever seen you post is nonsense
Their actual times not fantasy numbers
impress me
show me something beyond your basic arithmetic level
Noakes has a similar actual competition experience as you do. Little to none.
this is biggest nonsense i have seen posted here in years
you are denigrating the most famous sports physiologist in the world, who wrote the bible, "lore of running" because of lack of top times ?!
i ask you again fool :
where are your 1'40.9 or 3'26.0 clockings ???
Venty, old man, just grow up or stop posting your fantasies.