If you can run 1.5 miles in 10 minutes, you have achieved "endurance excellence".

99¢ chicken sandwhich wrote:

In my high school days I could race 3200 meters under 9:30. I assume many of you LRC posters could do something similar.

That said, I am fat and out of shape yet would still achieve endurance excellence by these standards

## with enough time left to go through the drive thru and raid the dollar menu.

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What the hell does that mean. Do you lot speak like that in real life?

The answer is no it doesn't

come on, now wrote:

From later in the article: "Bonus Tip: Train like Roger Bannister. That is, split the distance into four 600-yard intervals and run them at a pace that's about 10 percent faster than your 11/2-mile pace, resting 1 minute after each. Bannister used this method to train for the first sub-4-minute mile."

Oh, that's brilliant.

Actually, IMHO it is is useful tip for someone who isn't into running, and and who maybe needs to build up to running the distance, to see what it feels like...

AND an it's an even better workout for new runners (someone who is trying to get near 20min for 5km, not easy for many people) - if someone who doesn't do much mileage (20-something a week - that's 4-ish miles 5 days a week, a decent schedule for a recreational runner), a set of 4x600m at 10% faster than 6:40/mile is decent - each interval would be around 4min/km pace, on relatively short rest - I think you can mix this into a session with a couple of longer intervals, or do 2 sets and you have a good beginner race pace session. I don't think this should be belittled, and actually I would like to be able to do this session (even 1 set) at this point, having been away from running for so long.

Referencing Bannister is misleading...but that'll be tough to explain to someone who really isn't into running. Maybe at least they can understand that this on it's own isn't the whole story...

Only read the first page, so someone has probably already pointed this out:

You need to be able to hit all 10 of the standards in order to be "in shape" according to the article.

Anyone who can do all 10 of those tests in a 24 hour period (arbitrary, but so is everything else) is in pretty dang good shape.

YouHeardItHear wrote:

xfitter wrote:

It's akin to bench 1.5 times your body weight. Why don't you twigs comment on that?

That's my point in this article. Most these fools can't bench half their body weight yet they are saying they are so extremely fit. Look at the cross fit games. Those guys can run sub 17 or 16 and do lifts and BW stuff these guys can only dream of. In person, I have yet to meet someone who can both outlift and outrun me. If they can outlift me, I can outrun them. If they outrun me, I can outlift them

i did look at the cross fit games the first person did 1.5 miles in 8;30

it's not like all the other ones are too tough either.

even as runners, 40 pushups should be easily attainable.

If you can do all those i would consider you a fit guy. No one of them is anything special on its own though. 300 yards in a minute is easily the easiest of that imo. 2.25x bodyweight on legpress seems pretty easy too. I can rep at least 3x my weight and im not very strong.

Id imagine most people here can't do all of them. I know i can't bench much more than my own weight and i dont think i can jump 26 inches either. Hopefully i can still touch mytoes lol.

To be truly special i would say bench 1.75x body weight, squat 2.25x body weight, 1.5 miles in less than 9 min and f**k the rest. If you can do those three you will do fine on the others, except maybe the jump which is laregly genetic anyways.

xfitter wrote:

It's akin to bench 1.5 times your body weight. Why don't you twigs comment on that?

A 1.5 bench is far easier than a 10:00 2.4km run, most males with any muscle mass at all could do that untrained but you set the treadmill to 9mph and 99% of people do not last more than 2-3 minutes.

Dr. Cooper (the guy who coined the word Aerobics" and started the running revolution) stated the test was: How far can you run in 12 minutes. I believe anything over 1.5 miles was "good" and 1.75 miles was "excellent". That's all you need to stay fit!

99¢ chicken sandwhich wrote:

In my high school days I could race 3200 meters under 9:30. I assume many of you LRC posters could do something similar.

That said, I am fat and out of shape yet would still achieve endurance excellence by these standards with enough time left to go through the drive thru and raid the dollar menu.

Actually the average LRCer says he runs a 2 mile in less than 9 minutes. This animal can

also do 200 consecutive pushups and 50 pullups.

He makes "six figures," as a engineer.

Ironically his wife/girlfriend never wants to have sex!