Kevin Castille 28:57 10k at age 40!

Geb is reportedly around 43.

Don't get it wrote:

Saca la lengua wrote:

Letsrun is filled with absolute snd complete idiots. 28:57 for 10k by a 40 yo "isn't that impressive"?! What?!

Because near 40 yr olds split that in their marathons

Yeah, NEAR 40 year olds. Do we belittle Junior records just because someone 20 has run much faster?

I THINK 28'57 IS NOT A BIG DEAL NOWDAYS. HE JUST TURN 40, IT IS NOT LIKE IF HE IS 43/46 YERAS OLD. IF HE WAS MID 40'S OR CLOSE TO 50. YES ....HAD BEEN A BIG DEAL. IT IS STILL A GOOD PERFORMANCE.

ANDRE ESPINOSA wrote:

I THINK 28'57 IS NOT A BIG DEAL NOWDAYS. HE JUST TURN 40, IT IS NOT LIKE IF HE IS 43/46 YERAS OLD. IF HE WAS MID 40'S OR CLOSE TO 50. YES ....HAD BEEN A BIG DEAL. IT IS STILL A GOOD PERFORMANCE.

Are you nuts? Nobody in the recorded history of the planet over the age of 42 has officially broken 29 minutes. Weird that the 7th fastest person over 40 EVER would be considered just "good". And what do you mean by nowadays? Since 2003, only one guy has done it, and he was a whole 10s faster.

So was it an Earth-shattering performance? no. But give the guy his due, it was an impressive run.

I am sorry for anyone who can't look at this achievement as phenomenal, particularly for a guy who is working a full time job. It's one thing for a world class runner who has been sponsored throughout their career and been fortunate enough to have that career last a long time, but this is a working dude like most of us. If you can't appreciate that then you need to recalibrate your humanity and your sense of proportion.

do you know anything about his training?

This is my point indeed when I say that Masters running is in

its infancy. the dude is holding a regular job. He could

do altitude training and pay more attention to recovery if

he was a pro. he has the talent to go 28 flat at age 40!!!!

Please consider that someone called it the performance of the meet. That is a bold statement.

quote]ggg wrote:

do you know anything about his training?

This is my point indeed when I say that Masters running is in

its infancy. the dude is holding a regular job. He could

do altitude training and pay more attention to recovery if

he was a pro. he has the talent to go 28 flat at age 40!!!![/quote]It's not like he's a completely unknown quantity. He has, afterall, run in the Olympic trials and has trained with Club Eugene. He's giving a free clinic down at John's Run/Walk Shop here in Lexington tomorrow night.

http://www.johnsrunwalkshop.com/news.html

Don't think I can make it due to work-related and other familial commitments...might try to weasel out of them.

NAIA rep wrote:

Please consider that someone called it the performance of the meet. That is a bold statement.

find a better performance from this meet then. I find it stunning that people are belittling this amazing run

One word: Incredible.

Charlie Jess wrote:

I am sorry for anyone who can't look at this achievement as phenomenal, particularly for a guy who is working a full time job. It's one thing for a world class runner who has been sponsored throughout their career and been fortunate enough to have that career last a long time, but this is a working dude like most of us. If you can't appreciate that then you need to recalibrate your humanity and your sense of proportion.

++++1 I know former professionals who continued into their 40s and 50s. VERY few could still go sub 30 in the 10k past 40. The earlier post on the 55-59 guy running 55 min in the 10 mile?! Are you sh!tting me??? That's insane! What's his marathon time?

Most WORLD CLASS age groupers and I know many former pros in the 55-59 can't go sub 5 in the mile let alone crack 5.30 pace for 10 miles! That's an effing unreal performance! Did this guy run when he was younger or bloom late?

mplatt wrote:

One word: Incredible.

I believe Kevin ran a 14:01 indoors in February. I will argue THAT performance is better than his Stanford run....by a smidge.

Brian Pilcher from the Bay Area. Recent performances at 55 include Credit Union SacTown 10 mile - 54:42Houston Marathon - 2:34:57.

Baltic Babe wrote:

++++1 I know former professionals who continued into their 40s and 50s. VERY few could still go sub 30 in the 10k past 40. The earlier post on the 55-59 guy running 55 min in the 10 mile?! Are you sh!tting me??? That's insane! What's his marathon time?

Most WORLD CLASS age groupers and I know many former pros in the 55-59 can't go sub 5 in the mile let alone crack 5.30 pace for 10 miles! That's an effing unreal performance! Did this guy run when he was younger or bloom late?

Holy crap! Need to do some research and see if that's close to any records.

live to jog wrote:

Brian Pilcher from the Bay Area. Recent performances at 55 include

Credit Union SacTown 10 mile - 54:42

Houston Marathon - 2:34:57.

Baltic Babe wrote:

++++1 I know former professionals who continued into their 40s and 50s. VERY few could still go sub 30 in the 10k past 40. The earlier post on the 55-59 guy running 55 min in the 10 mile?! Are you sh!tting me??? That's insane! What's his marathon time?

Most WORLD CLASS age groupers and I know many former pros in the 55-59 can't go sub 5 in the mile let alone crack 5.30 pace for 10 miles! That's an effing unreal performance! Did this guy run when he was younger or bloom late?

yup-not a WR but still wicked fast

http://masterstrack.com/2012/04/22047/

ggg wrote:This is my point indeed when I say that Masters running is in its infancy. the dude is holding a regular job. He could do altitude training and pay more attention to recovery if he was a pro. he has the talent to go 28 flat at age 40!!!!

I don't understand why you think masters running is "in its infancy" just because everyone who does it has a job. Is there some plan to abolish full-time jobs at age 39 so that everyone can focus on training full-time?

The fact is, this guy Castille ran 28:57 while working a full-time job. This ranks him among the all-time best for other runners 40 and over, virtually all of whom were also working full-time jobs. In the future, other people will probably run faster; most of them will also have full-time jobs. Even open-category elites struggle to afford to train full-time -- there's not going to be some sudden wave of full-time professional masters runners.

And yes, I know you think there's a wave of guys who are in their 30s now who are going to demolish all the masters records in a few years. Guess what? There have ALWAYS been fast guys in their 30s, and the number that are still going fast a few years later at 40 is ALWAYS smaller than people like you expect. Their bodies get older, but their motivation also changes. Will Bernard Lagat be capable of rewriting masters record books in a few years? Probably. Will he be interested in doing it? That's a whole different question. Maybe he'll be in 3:36 shape by then -- and maybe he won't have much interest in running 3:36 after a few decades of being faster than that.

Remember Johnny Gray? 1:43 at age 35, 1:44 at 36 and 37, 1:45 at 38 and 39... Then at 40, he ran 1:52.42 and retired. Both the body and the mind have to be willing -- there's no "If so-and-so had decided to run masters, the records would be totally different." That's an inherent part of the challenge.

Great post. I remember Gray at 39 predicting how he would soon own all the masters records from 400-3000m. He ended up with only the 800. 40 has always been a significant turning point and will continue to be so.

hold the phone wrote:

28:00 at age 40? I think you should reconsider that prediction.

Reality Bath wrote:

Great post. I remember Gray at 39 predicting how he would soon own all the masters records from 400-3000m. He ended up with only the 800. 40 has always been a significant turning point and will continue to be so.

hold the phone wrote:

Yeah they said that about Irina Privalova too. Hell, she finished 7th in the 100 at the Russian Trials in 2008 at 39 yrs old!She was still kicking ass on the young ladies too! She said when she retired soon after that masters is for ppl who never accomplished big things at the top level when they were in their prime. Many people were encouraging her to go and set the WR in the 40-44 group, but she retired. It's sort of like the previous poster said about Lagat. Will he continue when he's used to performing at a higher level for decades?