GRupp wrote:
That's the only thing holding him back, is being able to pound out a 54 when everything hurts. My advice to Salazar is to have him run 400m or 800m ALL OUT after every workout he does. Rupp's sprint speed is very good, he could probably break 11 in the hundred, but he just falls apart after 4600m or 9600m in a fast race.
Is that really what's holding him back? Or could it be possible that those who beat him were just in better shape than Rupp?
o.O wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:I think a lot of people consider Geb the greatest distance runner of all time based on his entire record. I'm not aware of many who think he is the greatest marathoner of all time
That was a good subject change for being wrong
As a neutral observer, I don't see the subject change. Where is it?
lmfao dude no damn way rupp would break 11 seconds in a 100m dash...he might be close to not breaking 12 even...sub 11 in the 100m is pretty damn fast bro. high school state champions run anywhere from 10.3 to 11 flat.
lmfao dude no damn way rupp would break 11 seconds in a 100m dash...he might be close to not breaking 12 even...sub 11 in the 100m is pretty damn fast bro. high school state champions run anywhere from 10.3 to 11 flat.
pure shexxx wrote:
Moron. You have run ONE MILE (likely on a track) at that pace. It was probably a strung out, time trial type race for where you were dragged to your PR or were able to run in clear air. Galen, on the other hand, runs for SIX (PLUS) MILES, not always on a track, in a pack of 10-15 Kenyans and Ethiopians who are equal to or better than his WORLD CLASS ABILITY. It's not hard for most of us to run at 4:30 pace for a mile you dunce. Try to do it for 6 in a tight pack of ultra talented dudes trying to steal your paychecks from you and let me know how steady your legs are. He is not even close to the only guy who has had multiple falls. And he still has a ton of titles. It happens. Idiot.
Moron. I wasn't talking about him falling in track races. I was talking about him falling in a Half Marathon. Seeing as it is in the subject line of the thread, and it is not a very common occurrence, I noted the fact that Rupp seems to make silly mistakes like this often. Losing a shoe in XC or in a rainy race is unlucky. Losing a shoe in a championship race in dry conditions is clumsy. I'm not criticizing him; I'm just pointing something out--definitely something it seems he could work on (mental focus/preparation). I want him to succeed and win medals and become the best American distance runner ever (and I think he can), but that's not going to happen if he continues to make these mistakes.
I'm not even going to get into the fact that you are bringing up my running in your post. I could tell you I have run multiple miles at that pace in a row in races and in workouts, but I'll keep myself out of this thread because it isn't remotely about me. The fact that you couldn't create an argument without attacking an anonymous poster just makes your response weak and worthless.
Good day.
2011 NYC Half Marathon REPLAY: http://www.flotrack.org/speaker/98-Galen-Rupp/video/478093-2011-NYC-Half-Marathon-Replay
Alberto Salazar is a huge name in this sport. He has done wonders in the 10k and Half Marathon with many athletes. He was tough as nails when running the marathon. HE HAS BEEN A FAILURE IN THE MARATHON. He has had many opportunities to prove differently, but has continued to under produce. Kara left Alberto when she got spanked my an inferior Davila in Boston. The excitement surrounding Rupp reminds me about the debut of Bob Kennedy in the marathon.
Dismiss yourself from the locker room.
Rupp's splits were 15:05, 14:27, 14:04, 13:53. He easily could have gone under 60. Given that, he could surely go under 2:10 provided that he is in the shape that he was in on that day.
Leopardly wrote:
Rupp's splits were 15:05, 14:27, 14:04, 13:53. He easily could have gone under 60. Given that, he could surely go under 2:10 provided that he is in the shape that he was in on that day.
Ummmmm no he couldn't. Breaking 60 is something he'll never do
Dude clearly just by looking at his splits it is apparent he could have gone a lot faster. The conditions were less than ideal and the title of this thread states that he fell. With all this in play he essentially is faster in the half marathon than Hall... Who broke an hour five years ago and has done nothing of the sort since.
Saying he could break 11 in the hundred was probably an overstatement...
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4107606
Not saying this thread proves anything, but he's definitely got wheels and could undeniably be in the 11.5-11.8 range. I watched this workout the other day:
This is a sick workout, and it shows he has sprint speed at the end (sub 26 on those 200s) but he can't maintain it over 400-600m, which Mo and all the Africans can.
3rd at best wrote:
Still got beat by one of the Mo's. Can't remember which one though.
Yeah he got beat by Mo Farah who is the Wold Champion at 5k and runner up at 10k and who also happens to be British, so he wont be at the U.S. Olympic Trials.
Hall had speed once. That was in high school. He ran a 4:01 in high school. He has not run sub 4. This is more relevant: he ran a 4;17 ROAD mile last year. He does not have that speed anymore. He is strong as an ox from his altitude tempo/threshold stuff. Does he even hit the track anymore? If he wants to be truly world class, he needs to run some crisp 5ks and 10ks. If he can't break his 10k pr (28:07ish), then he has no business on the international marathoning scene. Rupp, on the other hand, is fast NOW.
Simons15 wrote:
lmfao dude no damn way rupp would break 11 seconds in a 100m dash...he might be close to not breaking 12 even...sub 11 in the 100m is pretty damn fast bro. high school state champions run anywhere from 10.3 to 11 flat.
This ^ it true. On the other hand, it is so obvious that I have to suspect that the poster who claimed he could break 11 was just trolling for kicks.
ummm... Rupp still won that race, the 5k where his shoe came off, even after stopping to tie it. He is a beast, unfortunately a clumsy one ;).
I run (haha) wrote:
Why is it that performance detracting things like falling during races seem to happen to Rupp. Not saying he isn't a great runner, but it always seems there this is some "thing" that happens during a good deal of his races that keeps him from running sensationally. An example is how his shoe came off in the NCAA 10k or 5k (dont remember which) final his senior year. For a runner of his caliber, why do these things happen? Most elite runners don't lose shoes in championship races, and most don't fall during half-marathons on pavement. Strange.
Secondly: I think Rupp will be America's best marathoner ever in the future, but at the moment he wouldn't beat Hall. Salazar hasn't had success with his athletes running marathons, and Rupp hasn't even run one yet, so it's a little early to say he's the favorite.
Rupp and Farah are on that good stuff. So of course Rupp can run a 2:05.
Hall is on the Jesus juice. That's far more potent than the bullshit that everyone assumes that rupp is on.
Leonard Shivolitz wrote:
The excitement surrounding Rupp reminds me about the debut of Bob Kennedy in the marathon.
Rupp > Kennedy. Kennedy was over the hill by time he tried the marathon, Rupp may just be entering his prime now.
GALEN RUPP HAS NO INTENTION IN RUNNING THE MARATHON. Anyone that believes that there is any chance of him running is totally ignorant to the Marathon at this level. This is simply Nike hype and so many of you gullible ball suckers are eating it up.
Isn't the infamous thyroid doctor in Houston?