Jager Suspended For 2 Years For Steroid Bust (Not A Joke)

Bromstein wrote:

You guys are so uptight, of course the natural reaction is to think it was Evan, but it is clear from the first post that it wasn't him. Thats what makes this thread so funny. The op knew what he was doing when he created this thread and I applaud him for that.

Anyone who doesn't think this is funny needs to lighten up. I will bet Evan would laugh if he saw it.

I agree with you. For the guys going off that it ruins Evan if you click on the thread you quickly learn it's not him. How does that ruin him?

The thread made me think about some of my assumptions about doping in the sport which is a good thing so I decided to leave it up. It's the same reason we allow people to speculate about doping on here. We believe it leads to a cleaner sport because all clean athletes are under suspicion.

What comes up as hot on the homepage is automatically generated. I would have to manually go in and override it.

Plus, the original poster was very clever, what he posted was factually accurate. Well played by him.

Dude scroll down Nolan Shaheed as big as life there he is on the ad. Very very disappointed as a fellow Masters/Veteran athlete.

Methinks...

Here it is, this makes me sick to my stomach....

You may have seen or heard Nolan Shaheed playing the trumpet with greats like Marvin Gaye, but you may not know that he is also a record holding runner who loves StemEnhance. These days when he is not playing in a nightclub or working in the studio laying down musical tracks, Nolan is out on the running track, training for his next competition. He currently holds the World indoor record in the 800m, 1500m and mile in both the men’s 55+ and Men’s 50+ age groups. In 2007, he was named Male Masters Athlete of the year.

“I train every day,” Nolan says, explaining, “I do about 12 miles a day of 200m repeats and mile repeats, so it’s pretty intense.” He has used StemEnhance over the last 2 years, but became even more dedicated to the product about 8 months ago. “I had a very hard competition coming up in the National Championships,” he says, “and I usually don’t do well in those races, so I made sure to take StemEnhance.” During the big race, he says, “I ran fast, faster than ever, and I said to myself, “what did I do different? It must be the StemEnhance!”

But the story doesn’t end there…At the World Championships, Nolan took 2 golds and a silver — winning his second race only an hour after setting a record in the 300m. Nolan was amazed: “I shouldn’t have been able to do a double like that,” he says, adding “it must be the StemEnhance. It’s given me the edge…again!”

"It's the same reason we allow people to speculate about doping on here. We believe it leads to a cleaner sport because all clean athletes are under suspicion."

On the contrary, I think if all clean athletes know that they themselves are under suspicion, and they keep hearing sh!t about how EVERYBODY is doing it, they may break down and do it anyway.

Of course there are some druggies out there, but there is no way as many people are doing it as most posters on LR (or Victor Conte) would lead you to believe. Not enough money in the sport, coupled with actual 3rd party testing.

no kidding doobie do, who in the world would put that crap into their systems? for what, to run a little faster than the other guy, then die? I blindly always thought masters/veteran athletes know better and wouldn't CHEAT. So this CHEATER has medals now and tiny little testicles to show for it.

Yeah or you guys could just add a first name to the title of the thread and no one would care about it any longer but of course you guys will just do whatever you can to piss people off. Shocking.

Johnny Hammersticks wrote:

That's funny, because everyone is going to click on this thread thinking you're referring to Evan Jager...but it's not!

I was guessing Kathy...who is Evan though...Sorry if it's a dumb question but I don't post here much

Flagpole wrote:

What a weird thing. 68-year-old using steroids to do better at masters track competitions? Good Lord.

Wake up, brother. It's going on all over the place.

There were TWO positive drug tests at US Masters Nationals in Ohio, Val Barnwell and several others that have been caught in recent years. Masters appears to be MORE drug-infested than elite these days. Then there's a douche named Ken Stone out there who told the Washington Post that drug testing

“is a waste of money, it goes against the ethic of masters track, it’s a nuisance and it won’t even stop the doping it pretends to attack. There are so many holes in drug-testing I can’t even begin to list all of them."

http://masterstrack.com/2010/06/13159/

I'm not so sure you can say the same thing about road racing, but Masters Track is an obvious cesspool.

I must say, that if all master's athletes are doping, they suck at it--because I'm clean and I'm faster than just about everybody in my (new) age group.

Either that or they're in such bad basic shape that doping just makes them normal.

Also, this Jager person--she's not the weirdest, by far.

Last year I swear I saw David Carradine (Kung Fu) at a track meet, running the 1500--he had a high pony tail and compression socks.

LMAO, I can't even type "compression socks" without killing myself by remembering the "dumping in the compression socks" thread!!!!!!!!

I'd dump in Kung Fu's compression socks any day

So you are saying that Kathy Jager has tiny little testicles?

Desert Rat wrote:

no kidding doobie do, who in the world would put that crap into their systems? for what, to run a little faster than the other guy, then die? I blindly always thought masters/veteran athletes know better and wouldn't CHEAT. So this CHEATER has medals now and tiny little testicles to show for it.

wejo wrote:

The thread made me think about some of my assumptions about doping in the sport which is a good thing so I decided to leave it up. It's the same reason we allow people to speculate about doping on here. We believe it leads to a cleaner sport because all clean athletes are under suspicion.

Exactly. Especially your last sentence...it's good to question ALL athletes regardless. Just like we question religion, life or if a thread is started by a troll.

Eventually we will find the truth, right?

Bromstein wrote:

The op gets a 9/10.

I,like many thought for a split second tha he was referring to Evan Jager which stirred up all kinds of weird thoughts because he is the last person I would expect to get busted for steroids, which then led me to conclude that track is officially ruined if guys like Evan test positive.

He got me too. I was pretty shocked and started thinking of the implications of what it meant. Within a few seconds I was already rationalizing it with, "I guess I'm not totally surprised if anyone tests positive" and the thread loaded up and I saw it was a different Jager.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Last year I swear I saw David Carradine (Kung Fu) at a track meet, running the 1500--he had a high pony tail and compression socks.

He died in '09. Sure it was him?

I am hereby nominating the tennis comment in reference to Jaromir Jagr for post of the year.

ROIDS yall! wrote:

another pic

http://blog.women-running-together.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/CathyJ-300x225.jpg

Might just be the angle of the pic, but she has stacked shoulders and traps....she's probably retracting though.

As far as people being surprised that a 70yr old would use steroids for a masters track event.....some guys used steroids for no other reason than to look good and get chicks. It's called vanity. It's the same reason guys go to the tanning salon.

I think people totally underestimate the # of people who use steroids and the reason they use them.

Alan

"I think people totally underestimate the # of people who use steroids and the reason they use them."

IDK--I know lots of people in lots of sports, and I can honestly say that I don't know anybody who I suspect of using steroids at the moment, or for the past 5 years, for that matter--and that includes workout-guys at the gyms I go to (admittedly the YMCA)--and that includes vanity-driven middle-aged gays with their meticulous coiffure, whitened teeth, and deep tan in winter.

As opposed to the 1980's and early 1990's, where I knew literally dozens of guys who were using. It was so easy, it was EVERYWHERE.

Maybe I just hang around a different crowd now, but even the muscular aesthetic for men seems to have waned, in favor of the cool, nerdy stick-type, more effeminate--a difficult effect to get with working-out and roids.

In fact, I think that working-out and 'roids have been replaced with Facebooking and nicotine/caffeine.

Chic, baby!

One additional thought that comes to mind--I'm like an anachronism now, a real throwback--the guy who actually does huge squats in the gym, and who is muscled and ripped.

Coming up, I was a weaker guy amid the roid-monkeys. Even as I developed, and my weights began to get respectable, I would see guys using my weights as warmup weights--guys who were, you know, 5'10, 300 lbs, and ripped.

As I continued, my weights continued to get heavier, until some of them were actually top-notch, like deadlift and maybe leg press. During this period, there came a transition point, at which I--ME--was now the strongest guy in the gym. It first hit me when a gym supervisor saw me doing squats around 450, and told me I had the biggest squat there.

Since that time, around 7 years ago or so, my weights have kept essentially constant, while those of other people in the gyms has gone down--the guys who were in my age class and above have all gotten older and weaker and don't work out nearly as much, the guys in my age class are largely absent from the gym due to work and kids, and the young kids can't be expected to have developed any big strength yet. I am now the strongest guy at the gym, by far. My weights are big, but not huge by historical and strongman standards--4 plate squat, 3 plate bench, 6-plate deadlift, 18-plate leg press--but are above anybody else around.

I'm like a throwback to an older era of bodybuilding videos--I even look like a throwback, with the stuff I wear--cut-up t-shirts, football shorts, grips. It's not the same anymore, guys don't really seem to care about the things that roids can get them.

Even at the U, I see the weights the football guys are throwing around--a Div 1 program. They're good weights, and are every bit the equal of my own, and even more, of course--but they are nothing like what I have seen in the past, from guys of that size. There are a couple of notables, of course, but even them I don't necessarily suspect, just by looking at them.

Well, so much for that--if my musings are anywhere near the mark and there are less people using roids, in general, then great--but ultimately you may be right, there are TONS of people using roids, they just don't work out hard enough to get the massive benefits.

Perfect! They can be lazy, but physically respectable, at the same time! Oh, and they can keep recreationally smoking, of course.

Her first bust was in 1999. She claimed menopause meds and she did have a prescription to back it up. No matter, she got a 2 year suspension. Now we have deja-vu all over again --once again, hormone replacement therapy and she had a prescription, but very few people are cutting her slack this time. In 1999 there was no drug-testing at the national level (her bust was at a world meet), but her latest was at a national meet. Athletes were told a year in advance about upcoming drug testing and urged to get a theraputic use exemption (TUE) for any banned meds that were prescribed by a physician.

She neglected to do so and claimed that her med wasn't banned as recently as five months prior to the national meet. This might be plausible except for the fact that she's a nurse and knew perfectly well the class of med she was taking which was an anabolic steriod. She is hiding behind the technicality that it wasn't specifically banned; however its classification was and it was only a matter of time before the USADA put that specific drug on the banned list.

She vows to return to competition at the end of her suspension. I doubt she'll get a warm welcome upon her return. Not that this matters much in the big scheme of things, but to the athletes at the national and world meet who got aced out of medals because of her --it matters a lot.

I just wonder when they are going to come after this local "big Jaw" 55 yo that is running 1:13 for the half marathon. This guy came from nowhere and improved so much in a couple years...