WEBB LEAVING SALAZAR/OREGON PROJECT

Towson exile wrote:

I agree with going to train with Li and Lagat. Lagat never has bad races. You train to run fast, not run endless mileage.

I'm liking this idea. I bet Lagat would make a great mentor and training partner for Alan.

I don't blame him. Good time to get out before Salazar starts makin him rock the ninja mask look too

pissing away his career and youth

Steve Scott will have 100 more sub fours then Webb

Lagat is level headed pro , Webb is a spoiled brat . Not sure Lagat wants to baby sit.

Webb is no longer a world class miler , his slowing talent points to 5000 meters.

webb is shit.

Webb had a terrible indoor season. If he stayed with Salazar, there's no chance he'd make the World team. This is Alan Webb... He should be in contention for gold! He needs to go back to Raczko and get in his rhythm again now that he's healthy.

He can go where he wants but IMHO the problem is in his head. Can he find a new head?

But in any case he needs a coach who knows how to train milers. Not marathoners.

Would Dave Monti be in on the April Fools joke, 2 days before April Fools? Doubt it, but I suppose we'll find out shortly if that's the case.

Assuming this is legit, I think Webb's best choices of a coach are (in order):

1) Brother Colm... move to Kenya and train with the best mid-d coach in history. In my opinion, a no-brain 1st option.

2)Schumacher. If he loves Oregon and has thoughts of moving up to 5k at some point, this NO DOUBT his next best/realistic option. Jerry's group is the group he should have gone to to begin with, as guys like Solinsky, Teg and Jager are all more Webb-types then Rupp and Ritz are. Any one of those 3, when fit FOR A 5K, can drop 3:34-35 1500s. That's off of 5K training and without the raw speed of Webb. Jerry is a bread and butter guy. He loves his tempos and strength work all winter. Webb needs that. He also has shown that he can develop speed and a kick... knows how to peak his athletes, and keep them in competitive shape all summer.

3) Cook. As someone else mentioned, Torrence and Monzano are 2 great training partners (though I don't think they really train that much together since Torrence is in the Bay area and is part of the BATC... not sure where Monzano is based) and Cook and Webb have worked together in the past (both directly and indirectly). A couple of downsides here. 1) Webb's best season was after a year of serious strength work. He ran that sick 10k, got hurt, and came back the next year to run incredible times in the 800 and mile. After a few years of injury, Webb needs to get that monster base back again. Webb clearly thrives on layering speed on top of base. I'm not sure Cook would provide him with the base he needs to be a medalist.

4) Razcko. Has had success with him in the past. In fact, has had great success, then Webb left and had poor success, the he came back and had great success! This would follow a similar pattern... just one more turn.

I personally do NOT think Li nor Warhurst would be good choices. Li knows Bernard better then anyone, but that is a bad thing for Alan. What worked for Lagat may not work for Webb, and I have a feeling Li would just try and duplicate Lagat's workouts for Webb. This is not good. Warhurst didn't have success with Webb before... why would he now? Someone mentioned Marcus O'Sullivan as well as Vig. Think its tough for a college coach to coach someone like Webb. Dividing time will not work well. Webb needs constant attention, and I doubt someone who spends 1/5 of their coaching efforts on Webb is going to fly. Plus, no training partners.

So Brother Col, Jerry, Cook, Razcko are the only choices as far as I can tell.

Who the f^ck cares is Steve Scott has more sub-4's than Alan Webb... it's about quality, not quantity. Last time I checked, AW was the American Record holder with a freaking 3:46 to his name.

The kid can retire and he has fulfilled his potential... something you can't say about many past and present wunderkids...

1) Brother Colm... move to Kenya and train with the best mid-d coach in history. In my opinion, a no-brain 1st option.

That's fuxtarded

It really makes no difference who coaches Webb, because no matter where you go - there you are. Winners find a way to win and losers find a way to lose.

Under Ultra wrote:

Who the f^ck cares is Steve Scott has more sub-4's than Alan Webb... it's about quality, not quantity. Last time I checked, AW was the American Record holder with a freaking 3:46 to his name.

The kid can retire and he has fulfilled his potential... something you can't say about many past and present wunderkids...

dog shit

not more 100 more

Webb missed the Olympics at the peak of his running years

Webb isn't not happy not getting the job done

Hey guys, a friend alerted me to the headline and figured I should address this. I am not leaving Alberto, he has brought be back to being a competitive miler again and feel our work has only just begun. I hope everyone had a good laugh at this and I will see you on the track!

Regards,

Alan

Any "Lights Out" fans on here? AlSal is definitely the Ed Romeo here (switch balance for weight and form) and Lights' dad is definitely Razcko. Depending on how the season finale ends up for Light's Leary will determine if Alan Webb will have success.

joho wrote:

Towson exile wrote:

I agree with going to train with Li and Lagat. Lagat never has bad races. You train to run fast, not run endless mileage.

I'm liking this idea. I bet Lagat would make a great mentor and training partner for Alan.

I think I'll sing with this chorus. As the FloTrack people said, he wouldn't have to compete with his training partner as Lagat is moving up to the 3,000 and 5,000 and Lagat would be a good mentor. And regardless of having the talent of Lagat, Li must be doing something right to hone that kind of consistency and health in a career that has lasted as long as Lagat's, and it seems like Lagat can win nearly every race he's in. Perhaps Web may even learn how to race tactically and the head case may be able to play head-games with his competitors.

Of course, who else has Li ever coached?

Will not go with Vigilante. Can't keep up w/ Robbie Andrews in workouts.

Yeah most coaches wouldn't want to touch the most talented middle distancer runner the US has had in about 40 years.

jenapharm wrote:

Who says that any of the coaches mentioned would want to coach Mr Webb at this point.

No one has mentioned COach Gags.

he also coaches lalang.

now what i really wanted to say.......

guys like torrence and manzano have got to love this. These guys know deep down that alan webb has a lot more talent than them and can kick their ass if he's fit.

The only amercian i think could take down a fit webb who's

"on" would be andrew wheating. if wheating would have been in that 07 1500m final when alan had that crazy kick the last 100m, i don't think he would have even been able to do anything about it. That was like a robbie andrews kick.