Low mileage training..is it just Batty?

Anyone see the quote by Barnicle today? It brings up a good point. I think I would have to disagree though. We can't simply attribute the trough in American distance running in the between the 70's and 90's to low mileage training alone. More factors are at play here such as the quality of the college programs and lack of U.S. interest in distance running (because there were no great American runners at the time).

Dolf Lundgren wrote:

We got it the first time buddy.

I used the same lower mileage scheme as miles batty, but it lost most of its effectiveness in races after I went to a running store and took a shit in a pair of compression socks.

I used the same lower mileage scheme as miles batty, but it lost most of its effectiveness in races after I went to a running store and took a shit in a pair of compression socks.

Keep in mind his low milage training is combined with complete abstainense from sex or masterbation, so, while he only runs 6 miles a day, he does the whole thing screaming, flailing his arms and periodically stopping to hump the pavement.

I'd get expelled from BYU. Why the h do people take religion so seriously?

Also how/why did miles batty, a 4min miler, go on an effing mission for a year, gain 30lbs, and eating what mustve been fried cheese balls? I mean I guess it's up to him to decide what's important in his life but cmon miles what are you doing? I'm sorry but religion seems to be the root of all problems

This thread proves that everyone on this website knows nothing and thinks they know a ton.

Every thread is a joke, so people who believe this garbage.....please stop. It's probably making you a worse runner.

"I believe there are numerous reasons for the resurrection of distance running here in America but one reason that cannot be overlooked is the return to high mileage. The drought of world class American distance runners in the 90s and up until the turn of the millennium can possibly be linked to the training philosophy of quality over quantity. What astonishes me is to see how this theory was so accepted after the great success of high mileage runners such as Bill Rodgers, Frank Shorter, and many others. Fortunately, it seems most coaches have accepted once again building strong aerobic foundations and that this is propelling their athletes to great success."

Barnicle said there are numerous reasons for the slump in US distance running in the 70s-90s and a current resurrection. But one of the most important ones is more mileage...

You think that ED EYESTONE would let him run low milage? He's totally throwback influenced by Shorter, Rodgers, et al.

Here are the US records set on 80 or less miles/week average:

800m 1:42.6

1000m 2:13.9

1500 3:29.3

2000 4:52.4

3000 7:29

Steeple 8:09.2

5000 12:54.1

10000 27:10.7

200 mile weeks? False. Read the article that just came out about Bill Squires. He has always thought mileage like that is stupid and counterproductive. He certainly didn't have his athletes running those numbers in the 70's.

and the influence of running companies and money/contracts. I think this has a lot to do with it. Back in the day, guys ran hard and trained hard, much of the time as a group. They weren't coddled and given big contracts and shoe deals. It seems like the "old school" philosophy of the 70's and early 80's is making a comeback with the younger guys (Hall, Ritz, Solinsky, etc).

UmNotTrue wrote:

and the influence of running companies and money/contracts. I think this has a lot to do with it. Back in the day, guys ran hard and trained hard, much of the time as a group. They weren't coddled and given big contracts and shoe deals. It seems like the "old school" philosophy of the 70's and early 80's is making a comeback with the younger guys (Hall, Ritz, Solinsky, etc).

What's the difference between running hard and training hard?

Low mileage doesn't necessarily mean everything is intense. A lot of "low mileage" guys run the same workouts as higher mileage guys, but just don't double or run as far on their easy days.

What's low mileage though? 80mpw is not low mileage IMO

With all do respect Galen Rupp's 27:10 does not count as low mileage. He AVERAGED 80 mpw that year. That includes weeks at 50 and others at 100.

Galen has consistently been averaging over 50 mpw since he was 16 and (I am not so sure on this) over 70 mpw since he was 20. The kid has a sick base with thousands and thousands of miles. Galen was doing 16 mile long runs, 12 x 1000 meters, and 8000 meter hill sessions w/ intervals mixed in on the track... when he was 17! I don't have the slightest idea what his workouts are like now, but judging by what Ritz does its NOT 4 mile tempo runs, 8 x 400 meters, and 12 mile long runs.

Rick Wulhuter ran like 353 2:13 143 on what i would guess is less than 50 avg.

All the naysayers watch out. Miles Batty will marry all of your girlfriends and wives.

yes relevant wrote:

"I believe there are numerous reasons for the resurrection of distance running here in America but one reason that cannot be overlooked is the return to high mileage. The drought of world class American distance runners in the 90s and up until the turn of the millennium can possibly be linked to the training philosophy of quality over quantity. What astonishes me is to see how this theory was so accepted after the great success of high mileage runners such as Bill Rodgers, Frank Shorter, and many others. Fortunately, it seems most coaches have accepted once again building strong aerobic foundations and that this is propelling their athletes to great success."

Barnicle said there are numerous reasons for the slump in US distance running in the 70s-90s and a current resurrection. But one of the most important ones is more mileage...

Miles Batty will eat your children to fuel his 30 mile weeks.

Power Runner wrote:

The low-mileage philosophy is that the quality and long days are what maximize adaptation to running, and that the extra work just pads your eqo about your mileage count and pharks up your recovery.