Has Rupp spoken about the race

You see, you are making my point. "Spoiled brats" don't run 27muthafvckin10. THEY JUST DON'T. 27:10, leading at a most difficult time, has my ultimate respect. Solinsky had a fantastic night, but what he did does not take away from what Rupp did. And Rupp was in a pile after the race, and people expect within 1-2min that he must do this and he must do that.FVCK THAT SHIT.

coach d wrote:

Car Bombs SUCK. wrote:

Only at Letsrun would a 23 year old AMERICAN continually get bashed even after he runs 27:10.

Only on letsrun would the REAL winner of the race, and not just the AR, but the ONLY caucasian ever to break 27 at 10000 meters not get his due.

All this because of an Oregon spoiled brat (yes, I knowm that's redundant) who couldn't be bothered to congratulate the winner (after multiple others had done so) until forced to do so by a coach.

Get real here. Rupp finished fourth in a race where there was nobody capable of challenging him, in the opinion of various letsrun experts. You know what Ryan Hall said about same and he's right.

And Rupp, thru his people, had the balls to say he wants sub 27:13.....and he chose the best scenario to do it.....AND HE FVCKIN DID IT. He did what he said he wanted to do.

That earns my respect. I bow to Rupp. He delivered. But Solinsky had an incredible night too.

I'm almost sure he has done that. Albeit off a slower pace in college. Solinsky probably has a step on Rupp in closing speed but not by much. The stunning thing about Solinsky was how comfortable he was over the long haul with the pace and having gas in the tank at the end. The last 800M was not that impressive in and of itself.

jmaren wrote:

rupp doesant have the closing speed that solinsky has there is no way he could have closed in a 1:56 even if he didnt lead for a chunk of the race.

Ryan Foreman wrote:

The last 800M was not that impressive in and of itself.

1:56 at the end of a 26:59 is not that impressive? (Maybe I need to take up chess instead.)

Ryan Foreman wrote: The last 800M was not that impressive in and of itself.

Well, everyone was quite impressed by Ritz' 60.4 and 60.2 last 800 after 10 x 62sec laps in his 5k and Solinsky closed the last 800 over 4 seconds faster after 23 x 65sec laps. I was pretty impressed.

"At the end of of a 26:59". Hence why I said "in and of itself". It was Solinsky's strength and endurance that was impressive. But the issue was speed. And if and when Rupp has gas in the tank for the last two laps I think he can do that and has done that. I recall one of his NCAA races that was slow, and he may have not done a 1:56 last 800 but he ran the last lap in the low 50s. CS may very well just focus on speed for the rest of the season and maybe he will display another gear. But we haven't seen it yet. He got totally destroyed in the last lap in the 5K of the World Championships last year by everyone in the field. It beats me why he is so bent on running shorter faster distances. He looks to be much more natural in the 10K.

Skuj wrote:

Ryan Foreman wrote:

The last 800M was not that impressive in and of itself.

1:56 at the end of a 26:59 is not that impressive? (Maybe I need to take up chess instead.)

Lasse Viren, one of the best closers in the history of the 10,000m, used to close in 1'56" but off a 27:40 pace...in the Olympic Games...

Rupp and Solinsky video interview

Looks like he has spoken about the race and also seemed appropriately congratulatory if a little disappointed. Certainly nothing in there for all you housewives to gossip about.

Talk about a thread about nothing.

battle wrote:

Lasse Viren, one of the best closers in the history of the 10,000m, used to close in 1'56" but off a 27:40 pace...in the Olympic Games...

um, that was pre-African invasion. Viren closing vs Geb and Bekele ?? Entirely different leagues.

And yes, Solinsky vs Geb and Bekele, same thing.

Rupp ran a 60 in closing his previous best of 27:35, and we all thought that was impressive. Obviously he was nowhere close to that in closing a 27:10. Solinsky has 4+ seconds on Rupp in the last lap of this event, off of any decent pace, until further notice.As for Bekele and Geb, 56 is/was a very respectable closing lap in the 10, at the 27:00 level. Chris is definitely a threat in any championship situation henceforth. Even if he sticks with the 5000 for champs for a while, his 10K strength will help preserve his speed through the rounds. It will be more a matter of knowing when/where to properly employ his kick, something Webb, for example, never figured out.

Championship races, even at 27:30 pace, usually have a lot of surging and moves that might tend to take some of the kick out of C.S.

I suppose if Rupp runs a 5000 at Pre he might compete against Solinsky again. Or if Solinsky decides to try to qualify for the World Championships 10K. Otherwise, I'd guess Rupp's immediate goals would be to run some races in Europe and continue to learn how to compete with the big boys and not be satisfied with the middle of the pack. He's doing well.

This Guy wrote:

http://www.milesplit.us/articles/43317

Rupp and Solinsky video interview

Made me cringe!..

Skuj wrote:

"Spoiled brats" don't run 27muthafvckin10. THEY JUST DON'T.

WTF are you talking about. That makes no sense at all.

Ursus horribilis wrote:

Rupp ran a 60 in closing his previous best of 27:35, and we all thought that was impressive. Obviously he was nowhere close to that in closing a 27:10. Solinsky has 4+ seconds on Rupp in the last lap of this event, off of any decent pace, until further notice.

It actually impresses me the ignorance on this board sometimes.

First off, you are referring to a race back in 2007 when we thought a great kick for Rupp was when he "outkicked" solinsky in a 13:30 5K and really neither of them had much of a kick. Maybe 2:02 for their last 800. Nice closing speed, but not a blazing kick.

2009 was the year that Rupp displayed closing speed, and yes he did it indoors in his 13:18 5K (putting nearly 2 seconds on chelanga in his last 200) and in multiple races outdoors. Yes most of them slow for him but he was closing out in things like 2:25 last 1000, 3:59 last 1600 on like 4 or 5 occassions and in situations where he was running 5K's on top of 10K's.

Sorry, but you can't do that if you can't kick a lot better than he did the other night.

What happened the other night was not what he can kick off of 27:15 pace. It was what can he come in at when he leads the race when it's the hardest and deals with the anxiety of having 3 guys sitting on you the whole way. If you guys don't appreciate the toll that takes, you simply have never been there. The energy spent on thinking about the laps and keeping it on pace, combined with the energy spent from the anxiety of being sat on (knowing that you may well lose the race that you made happen) is pretty substantial. And while obviously it can't be measure, it cannot be debated that it takes it's toll. I saw the race and it was pretty obvious that Rupps face shifted from "job at hand" around 7-8K to "what's going on behind me?" around 8K. That's about the time Rupp started to look really vulnerable and I'm sure that's about the time the doubt came in.

You start hoping and wondering if someone might go around you so you can tuck in and not think for a minute and start wondering what else will unfold. That just takes it out of you after 8.5K tracking AR pace.

I'm not saying Rupp could have beat Solinsky, that was Solinsky's best night ever by far. But what I'm saying is if Rupp was running in Solinsky or Chelangas place he would have had a very different finish and much bigger kick. I think you would have seen Rupp jump on it from 1200 or 1000 out knowing that 27:00 was in reach and likely Solinsky would have gone with him and stung him but they very well both may have gone under 27:00.

Haven't you ever been in a track race where you were not in the lead and you knew you could win it? You just had that feeling that things were clicking and despite the pace you knew you felt right? Do you remember that feeling, that adrenaline, that confidence? Think about how it affected how you finished the race. Now think about if you were ever in a race that you thought you should win and were leading, and yet someone you thought shouldn't be with you IS with you late in the race. That doubt and stress that starts building up changes your outcome. Apply that to the laps upon laps that you have to deal with that in a 10K and the affect is amplified.

Lastly, Rupp just outkicked solinsky indoors at 3K in a race that really mattered, qualifying for a world championship. Rupp is supposedly a 10K guy and solinsky a 3K-5K guy and your saying that Rupp cannot outkick solinsky?

The reality is from 1500 - 10K these guys will go back and forth in the near future unless one of them stops improving or the other one really pulls away. Going forward it's more likely that Rupp would come away in front on the 10K side and Solinsky on the 1500 side but again as we've seen in the last couple months anything can happen at any of the distances.

One thing we know for sure, Solinsky will never have the luxury of sitting behind Rupp for 9100 meters again unless he's actually struggling.

stillllll searching..... wrote:

didn't rupp close his NCAA victory outdoor 5k or 10k in 3:00 or 2:59 for the last 1200. pretty good speed, granted off a slower pace. but i think if rupp fires on all cylinders he can hang with solinsky. 10 seconds in a 10k is not a massive gap.

either way, can't wait for summer to see both of these great runners mix it up in europe and drop the record perhaps even lower.

Rupp did close that fast, but I think solinsky closed his senior 5k in 4:00

coach d wrote:

All this because of an Oregon spoiled brat (yes, I knowm that's redundant) who couldn't be bothered to congratulate the winner (after multiple others had done so) until forced to do so by a coach.

Do they allow internet access there at the looney bin?

Good interview.