UCSB men's cross country vs UCONN women's basketball on ESPN

these guys are losers, what a cop out to get out of trying to do something. all they did was bring attention to themselves even more by being huge PUSS**S!

another wrote:

Judging from that I don't see why a really good high school team would have much difficulty beating a women's collegiate team. There are some pretty good high school basketball teams every year (i.e. Lebron's high school team). Does anyone really think a high school team of that caliber couldn't dominate the women?

We've already established that really good high school boys are on the same level or better than world class women. So no, no one here is disputing whether Lebron's high school team could beat the UConn women.

But UCSB XC team is not exactly Lebron's high school team, is it? It's a collection of skinny slow-twitch white guys who may or may not have a little hoops experience growing up. Basketball is certainly not their primary sport. Them playing pick up basketball once in a while is the equivalent of the hobby jogger who runs 5 miles a day.

UCSB XC vs. UConn women will be like the hobby jogger running his usual 18:00 or 19:00 5k while Lisa Koll runs 15:39.

carney man wrote:

[quote]another wrote:

UCSB XC vs. UConn women will be like the hobby jogger running his usual 18:00 or 19:00 5k while Lisa Koll runs 15:39.

I think you are kind of missing it here...

IF these guys have varsity experience in high school for any bball squad then they aren't of the 18-19 minute 5k talent variety. If a guy with 16-17 minute 5k talent as a high school boy is in his more mature mid 20's and is running 5 miles a day he can certainly run faster than 18-19 minutes for 5K.

Another side to this is the athletic ability you are completely ignoring. Just because somebody didn't play bball in high school or only did in high school doesn't mean they don't have a talent level to rival a lower level collegiate bball team (like a DII or DIII). So lets say somebody is a gifted as a runner but never competes and then gets some training in to focus it, then they can get pretty good. The same goes for team sports. If somebody is athletically talented why couldn't they keep those skills and talent level to exhibit later?

I am certainly not saying the UCONN women would lose nor would they win. I don't know the UCSB guys - but there is certainly a possibility of a good game.

Lebron's team never won a state title, until the year AFTER Lebron left!

I know quite a few xc guys who can hold their own on the court.

I think all UCSB needs is a few of these such guys and one guy who can reach higher than UCONN's tallest. It would likely be sloppy, but that's all it would take.

ktj wrote:

Lebron's team never won a state title, until the year AFTER Lebron left!

If by "never won a state title" you meant, "won three state titles" then yes, you're right.

High School Career Highlights: Led St. Vincent-St. Mary (SVSM) to three state championships in four seasons. Named Mr. Basketball for the state of Ohio by AP for three straight seasons beginning with sophomore year. Named to USA Today All-USA First Team for three consecutive seasons beginning with sophomore season. Posted four-year high school career totals of 2,657 points, 892 rebounds and 523 assists.

Here are the results:

SUNY STD wrote:

Watch a women's game, count how many times a rebound hits the ground. Count how many airballs go up. Then go watch a high school men's teams play. Count the same thing.

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Are you confusing HS w/ 4th grade? Watch a HS game, chances are you will not see any air balls or rebounds hitting the floor.

Although the UCSB team might (and I emphasize might) be more athletic than the UCONN women, they will almost certainly be more unorganized and much more sloppy. I see this as their downfall.

This particular UCONN team has been practicing basketball together several hours a day for the last half a year. And most of the women have played together for several years. They have set plays and deep basketball knowledge. They drill constantly. If this game happens (and it won't), you had better believe UCONN players would bring their A game. No street ball, and no relaxed pick up games.

(An aside: funny how all of the guys here who think they could take D-I women's teams only see the women in a pick up setting where they're likely playing half speed so they don't get injured.)

If they played a full game, I would guess the score at 100 to maybe 40 in favor of UCONN, with most of those 40 points coming in garbage time.

Vols fan, you honestly have no clue what you're talking about. My most recent lambasting of a major college woman's player was 2.5 weeks ago, she was playing very serious, I was taking it easy, she was there to prove herself against the guys, I was there to have fun. If 3 of the UCSB players played HS ball, and another 2 or 3 have a clue, they win this game. They would control the boards, kick it to the outlet, and run these ladies into the ground. Offensively the ladies could run any offense they want, they would just have a hell of a time shooting over the UCSB players with their 1950's style set shots from their shorter frames.

"So no, no one here is disputing whether Lebron's high school team could beat the UConn women."

As a high-schooler, Lebron would have only needed four mannequins wearing uni's to help him in beating this UConn team.

D-I, D-II, D-III, or even some top high school TEAMS, no question. UCONN loses.

Three guys who played high school ball and two jokers? No way. UCONN wins.

I don't think that the people guaranteeing a crushing UConn victory are familiar with the athletic disparity, assuming these UCSB guys are good athletes.

I'll use myself as an example. In my almost completely white rec league, with a couple D-III guys and a couple good HS players on every team, I score 10-15 points a game, grab 5 rebounds, etc. I can score in the post, drive the lane, shoot threes, whatever. The tallest guy is 6'3" or so and only a few guys can dunk.

When I have played with ex-D1 and Juco guys, I barely even venture in the paint and almost exclusively shoot threes. I get only uncontested rebounds and two or three times a game I get posterized. The game is completely different when you are playing against 6'8" guys that can also jump. I am basically useless in those games.

The UConn women would have a similar experience to me if they were to enter a game against a decent men's team. They have never played a competitive game against someone that can grab rim, let alone dunk. Their post players are used to simply turning and shooting over people, and that would be impossible to do in this hypothetical game.

It would be very hard for them to get a shot off in the paint, where, if you watch UConn, is where the score a vast majority of their points. If the Gauchos could convert those blocked shots into fast break opportunities, they could score a lot of easy buckets.

Put it this way, it would be much more of a strategic adjustment for UConn than the Gauchos.

I don't see why people think UCSB would be any good?

They're not any good at their PRIMARY sport - so why would they be good at another sport?

Let's call this what it is: skinny, white guys - with an inferiority complex because they got bullied their entire lives - running their mouths about something they can't back up.

If these guys had any seriousness to them, they'd play pick up games against women at their home school. They wouldn't advertise on facebook.

These guys have the mentality of junior high girls. "Ooooh, if I get a million votes I'll donate my kitten to Haiti." These douchebags should stick to running; maybe a couple more miles a week and few less in the gym and they'd do something more than sit at home on the weekend of the NCAA meet and talk smack about real athletes.

Sad to see the group go. But if I was coaching these XC guys, it would be..run, run, run. No way the Uconn ladies can keep up with XC athletes, play aggressive, force turnovers and missed shots and take it the other way.

wow, Drunk Dave, , i've been a runner for 10 years, and i also go to ucsb, but boy was the post on point

Scott Smith of UCSB took 50th at nationals in cross. I'd say that's pretty good considering he was just a few seconds away from being an all-american. I'm not saying you're wrong about them sticking to their own sport, however, you can't just say "oh, stick to your own sport so you can go to nationals." I'm sure these guys train as hard as they can and just happened to make a facebook group jokingly which ended up being a pretty big thing. It's pretty obvious when the closed the group that they were trying to focus on running. By the way, if you look at their team performance from west regionals this past year, they're an ncaa national bound team through 4 runners; Too bad their 5th couldn't come through.. but i doubt their thoughts on a basketball game had anything to do with that

run run run?

They could not run with these women, ever.

They would not be taller, faster, or more basketball athletic.

There are at least 3 women the can dunk at UCONN.

They could not beat these women in a fight, decathlon, and certainly not a basketball game.

They would leave the court battered, bruised, and thoroughly beaten.

If you want people to respect your sport, you better respect theirs.

fools!

1:49/50 800m runners will be able to run and jump, so no worries about that part.

you had me until you called womens' basketball a sport!

not kilgore wrote:

run run run?

They could not run with these women, ever.

They would not be taller, faster, or more basketball athletic.

There are at least 3 women the can dunk at UCONN.

They could not beat these women in a fight, decathlon, and certainly not a basketball game.

They would leave the court battered, bruised, and thoroughly beaten.

If you want people to respect your sport, you better respect theirs.

fools!