Could Adams have beaten Oklahoma at D1 Nat's

yep that is true DII academics are below average. Not one could even hope to compare with the academics of a DI school. I mean come on the academics at mines!!! You gotta be kidding me. What a joke...

Just because you go to a DII or DIII or even NAIA school does not mean you can not be a good student. Even at poor ol' Adams, there are actually quite a few very good academic minds.

yeah because the only place that they could ever run nationals would be Terre Haute. There are no other cross country courses in the nation. Maybe you shouldn't speak before you think dumb@ss. That must be those D1 academics paying off.

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Im Matt Foley wrote:

kdfjgldfkj wrote:

I wish if nothing else they would have all divisions compete on the same course on the same day. Much like state meets do it.

So you'd like to have teams staying over an hour away because Terre Haute doesn't have enough rooms to accommodate all the D1, D2, D3 teams and their fans? I wish, if nothing else, you'd stop to think before opening your yap again.

I was writing in response to this bozo who for some reason thinks that nationals must be run in Terre Haute. The irony is the fact that he writes. "I wish, if nothing else, you'd stop to think before opening your yap again."

Some people on this site are such morons.

ah okay. sorry. Your "reply to" was to me. All is good carry on.

O I wonder wrote:

coach D wrote:

And at least Dave Smith has the balls to race against them.

This is true! Unlike Oregon

Do you mean Oregon or Oregon State???

midwaste wrote:

I have heard of instances of select teams competing in DI, while the school as a whole remained DII, but I don't think it's very common. The only example I know of is in collegiate hockey. UND competed in DI when the rest of the sports were still competing in DII competitions. Maybe it's just an exception for hockey. Then again, maybe ASC could pull it off.

There are only two divisions in hockey, so somewhere along the line some D2 schools (and all D3 schools) need to "move up"

midwaste wrote:

athlete student wrote:

Plus ASC's academics don't meet accreditation standards that D1 schools must meet.

such as?

So who else is bidding, Einstein? What does a host school like ISU make from a championship for a nonrevenue sport? Right, your idea is so brilliant that the NCAA accountants are falling over each other to present it to their higher-ups. And as a result schools in major metro areas will be fighting each other to host such an event. It's a worthless idea, congrats for coming up with it and posting it here for all to see.

kdfjgldfkj wrote:

yeah because the only place that they could ever run nationals would be Terre Haute. There are no other cross country courses in the nation. Maybe you shouldn't speak before you think dumb@ss. That must be those D1 academics paying off.

Just another idiot who doesn't know how to correctly reply to the post he's responding to. Go figure.

sgh wrote:

ah okay. sorry. Your "reply to" was to me. All is good carry on.

Oklahoma STATE not Oklahoma wrote:

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Charming Charlie wrote:

[quote]O I wonder wrote:

P.S. Moron, I know its Oklahoma state. I just dont feel like adding state to it. Chill out.

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There is a BIG difference bucko.

Well I hope you are intelligent enough to know who I was referring to, considering I mentioned them as the National Champions.

Well if you were intelligent you would have shortened it by typing OkSt, OkState, or OSU...not Oklahoma. Laziness is not a good quality

Don't be too hard on him, he went to a DII school and is a little slow.

Fernandez wouldn't even be on the varsity squad at Adams State.

midwaste wrote:

This year you had a 13:40 guy in 6th. The depth and upfront firepower in DII has definitely improved since those days.

Yeah, but the winner is a 14:12 guy.

That doesn't really mean there is more depth just cause a 13:40 guy was 6th.

PACMAN74 wrote:

midwaste wrote:

This year you had a 13:40 guy in 6th. The depth and upfront firepower in DII has definitely improved since those days.

Yeah, but the winner is a 14:12 guy.

http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/1236895.html

That doesn't really mean there is more depth just cause a 13:40 guy was 6th.

He ran in the low 13.50's at Mt Sac this year after taking the months of November to early Feb off due to a car accident hence why he didn't run xc nats last year you clown.

The Adams team this year was amazing. Mwei is an 8:45 SC/13:52 guy (recovering form injury). Braun has run 13:36. Medigovich has run 13:40. These three can compete with any top three at the D1 level. I don't know the PR's of all of the other guys on the Adams team, but I do know that Florian didn't make the nationals team and he's a 13:58 guy. Yeah, a 13:58 guy. So all of you D1 wannabes out there, ask yourself if you've run faster than 13:58. If not, you might not have even made the ASC national team.

Congrats to the Adams team for all of their hard work and accomplishments. You are one of the top teams in the country, regardless of classification. It will be exciting to see how you do this spring.

Do you really think that no one else has bid? The NCAA as far as I know doesn't release the information as to who is bidding but obviously nationals has not always been in Terre Haute. In 2002 they hosted and then the next year they did not. It is just that in the past years the selection committee has chosen them. There are schools that are currently fighting (proposing) to host but are not being awarded it. I don't know how the NCAA accountants got brought into this but in reality it would probably save a bit of money due to the fact that they wouldn't be paying individual schools multiple times to host. They would just pay the host school a little more to do it. Here is the information as to how they select dipsh#t. The more you talk the more you sound like an idiot.

Future Championships

Finals. The NCAA Men’s and Women’s Track and Field Committee will be soliciting

bids for the 2011 cross country championships finals in Janurary 2010.

Regionals. The NCAA Men’s and Women’s Track and Field Committee is accepting

bids for the following cross country regional championships:

Nov. 13, 2010

Northeast Region

South Region

November 12, 2011

All nine regions

To obtain bid information, please contact Liz Turner Suscha at the NCAA national

office (phone: 317/917-6189; e-mail:

lsuscha@ncaa.org

). Details related to the bid

process, including facility diagram, proposed budget, etc., will be provided by Ms.

Suscha. For finals site bids, the committee anticipates site recommendations for 2011

to be presented to the Division I Championships/Sports Management Cabinet in June

2010. The committee anticipates the site recommendations for the specified regional

championships to be presented to the cabinet no later than February 2010

I can't believe you guys wont just admit that ASC would have been a top contender at nationals, just because they are DII you guys shut them out completely like they are a joke. and I dont know how academics could brought into this but just because a school isn't D1 doesnt mean anything about how good of a academic school they are. There are tons of D3 schools that are way above D1 schools academically.

856 runner wrote:

I can't believe you guys wont just admit that ASC would have been a top contender at nationals, just because they are DII you guys shut them out completely like they are a joke. and I dont [sic] know how academics could brought into this but just because a school isn't D1 doesnt [sic] mean anything about how good of a academic school they are. There are tons of D3 schools that are way above D1 schools academically.

So why are you bring D3 into this? If you want the best education you can get, you look at D1 schools. If you want to face the best xc competition you can get, you go to D1 schools. That's the rule. Are there exceptions to this? Yes, of course. It's still the rule, though. Hypotheticals and wishful thinking don't change that one bit. If you want to be considered the equal of a D1 student athlete then you have to do what it takes to become a D1 student athlete. If you can't or just don't want to, then consider the alternatives, D2, D3, NAIA. D2 schools are notoriously soft on academics, they're 4-year junior colleges. There's good reason that a degree from UCLA or Cal or Colorado carries a lot more weight than one with a similar GPA from Chico State or Western State or Adams State, even in the same major. Place-for-place at the respective national championship meets, you will find that the D1 athlete is academically superior to the D2 athlete almost all of the time. The D1 student athlete has the ability to handle both high athletic rigors and high academic rigors and the D2 student athlete usually has the ability to handle just one or the other. That's what sets D1 apart, the best students AND the best athletes. You don't have to like it and you can even keep the irrational delusion alive that you D2 scrubs are magically every bit the equal of D1 men, but that's the fact, jack!

No, dummy, just that nobody is stepping up and putting up a better bid than mighty Indiana State's right now. You really couldn't comprehend that one on your own?