Another marathon cheater

jdrun1 wrote:

caveman wrote:

How about this guy who claims he ran 105 marathons in 2008 but has only one result on marathonguide.com under the name "Lawrence Macon" and zero results under "Larry Macon"?

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-297--13187-0,00.htmlhttp://www.marathonguide.com/results/search.cfm

Could it be that he didnt make the time cutoff in all but one of the 105 marathons?

No. It's because you can't spell. His first name is Laurence--with a U not W. Try that search at marathonguide.com again and tell us what you find.

Ah OK, I see it now but there are 2 ways to spell it and quite a debate about which one is the better spelling:

I was going with the name "Larry" which is what he is referred to in the media and found nothing under that name.

Here is another odd split at Boston:

14005 O'Neil, Billy 59 M Morrisville VT USA

Checkpoints

5k 0:22:53

10k 0:46:15

15k 1:11:47

20k 1:39:57

Half 1:49:07

25k -

30k -

35k -

40k -

0:06:58 3:02:32

Overall Gender Division

1591 1493 14

That's a 2nd half of 1:13:25, not bad for a 59 year old! He completed Boston in 2009 in 3:34.

bustinghimagain wrote:

holy cow.. he did it again in Boston... hope the BAA will bust him

#8224 Schoppmann, Ken 45 M Washington DC USA

Checkpoints

5k 0:23:18

10k 0:49:00

15k 1:14:09

20k 1:40:35

Half 1:46:33

25k -

30k -

35k -

40k -

0:07:50 3:25:03

Overall Gender Division

5720 4892 722

Fast forward to 2013......

Athlinks times don't seem to support a sub 1:30 half marathon (especially during 2nd half of a marathon)

Richmond Marathon 2013

1:58:18 first half

3:24:03 final, so......

1:27:45 2nd half

NO 20-MILE SPLIT

Also walking during that 3:24 finish (not sure when in race) at marathonfoto website.

Photos very similar to famous runner who's name rhymes with "Dip". Seems to be overdressed compared to others finishing at same time.

I beg to differ.

I ran 3:49 at 210 lbs in may 2011 and 3:08 at 185 lbs in october 2011, my first 2 marathons.

recovering fatty wrote:

I beg to differ.

I ran 3:49 at 210 lbs in may 2011 and 3:08 at 185 lbs in october 2011, my first 2 marathons.

Sorry, but you can only beg to differ if you post your real name. Why? Because anybody can post what you just did. I didn't, but you did. Name? Heck if real you'd probably get cheers, not jeers.

Here is what I have to say about all of this... I don't think a one-time cheater should be dragged through the mud, but i do think the RD deserves to be contacted.

Now, in the case of this guy, it seems that he was busted and then continued to do the same thing over-and-over again. That is a different story.

I'm in the same camp as most of you, I don't really understand why someone would cheat. It just doesn't make any sense. I guess in his case it was to qualify for Boston, but then he apparently tried to cheat at Boston? WTF?

One thing I would bring up is that sometimes people don't care about their times and might cut for different reasons. I had a group of friends at one time who used to "run" a half-marathon each year for the after party. They would start the race, run the first 3-4 miles and then head back to the finish via a different route stopping at a few bars along the way for drinks. It wasn't a big race and they didn't try to hide what they were doing. They weren't runners, but the race had a good party and they felt like their shortened run was a solid effort for them. Now, they never came anywhere near a competitive time, so it wasn't like they were ruining people's chances of qualifying for something, but they still probably displaced some walkers/slow runners in terms of overall placing.

My point is that they didn't do it in a malevolent way. they just wanted to be a part of the event and had no reason to care. I used to give the guy a hard time, but someone like him doesn't deserve to be totally vilified online. Anyway, just an opinion on the "outing" trend that's been around for a few years.