Philadelphia Marathon / Half Marathon

Michael Wardian...now there's a blast from the past!...I was wondering whatever happened to him, he seemed to drop off the face of the earth after that 100K two weeks ago...

twice a runner wrote:

the race went off really well, in my opinion. sounds like they listened to a lot of the feedback -- there were corrals, different starts for the two races, a good bag check, etc. could have been more portapots but the line went pretty fast.

the biggest snafu was the first seven mile markers. they were way off, which was a little frustrating when you're trying to figure out your pace. i ran 2:42:30ish and here were my first seven splits:

6:47

5:36

5:58

7:11

5:06

5:51

6:26

All over the map. I think I was probably right around 6:10 most of that time, but damned if I could tell during the first 1/4 of the race.

That's my only gripe. Otherwise, a great race.

yah i had heard about how bad they were with the mile markers so i used a gps and just ignored what the mile markers said. i am so glad i did. it was amazing how far off they were. what is the matter with these people?

Yes...but a google search that only brings up TWO results for a person who supposedly can run 1:19 for the half? And both results showed a woman who runs 24-25 for 5k. She didn't finish second in Philly. Period. She probably gave her number to a male friend who won $1000. for her/ or himself.

don't you think they have finish-line pic.s to verify if the bib number that crossed the line matches the person and wether they are female or male as you have implied. and if it was a female but not the woman who registered who you think is slow because you found 2 google results, then how does this affect you?

I agree that a google search can be a dangerous and misleading tool to gauge past performance on...however, I was there, and I do know that three of those women are bumped down because of a runner who simply could not have been a female. The announcer announced the places as they came in, and that particular female in question was never announced. They did have the top finishers fill out paper work at the finish - based on their finish PLACE, so hopefully that will resolve the situation.

We will know the answer to the question of wether or not this was a man or a woman when the online pic.s are downloaded tommorrow. I cant understand how a man could pass as a woman at the finish. Dont they pull you aside and ask some questions immediately after or maybe how about checking video or pic.s from the finish line to verify that the runners are who they say they are. Does'nt this happen at larger races? Does ben franklin actually know if the person in question received prize money?

In the results I was 3rd in the Philly Half for the women, but I did not see any woman ahead of me in the last 2 miles or in the finishing chute other than the 1st place woman. All along the course fans were telling me I was #2 woman in the last miles, and my family was at the finish in the stands and they did not see another woman other than first. 2nd was supposedly 15 seconds ahead of me. The finish line officials brought me to the media tent and had me as the 2nd place woman. This Jaquelyn Filliger, the supposed 2nd place, was no where to be found. If she was in the race and did finish 2nd, congrats and I apologize for doubting her, but she was a ghost on the course. She did not start in the elite field, so she would have passed me. I like to start conservatively, and I was NOT passed, to my knowledge, by any women in the race. I have emailed and called the race officials and no one has responded to me. It is quite frustrating.

Phew, thanks for that. Like Katie, I was mystified by this 2nd place woman who I never saw during the race.

Congrats on your great race, Katie! You looked strong when you flew past me near the end there :c)

A. Dent wrote:

My time posted is wrong.

I hit my watch when I crossed the start and AFTER the finish (which would mean a slower time on my watch) yet the time on the site is 8 seconds slower than my watch. I also gained five places since earlier results were posted.

There's no way there was that much of a difference. Between the timing f__k up and the start, I'm a little disappointed that this race was run the way it was run.

My posted time is wrong as well. It's funny -- I certainly ran 2:42:30. When they first posted results, they had me at 2:42:29, which was probably right. Now it's 8 seconds slow. I wonder what's the deal?

Me too. It was an 8 second difference between my initial result and my official. My watch was almost spot on with the first result. Weird.

The whole women's second place thing is really funny.

I was the perpetrator, but don't worry, I didn't accept any prize money.

In fact, immediately upon the race finishing, I explained to race officials that I had actually been using a girl's number, so the second place finish was a mistake... This was last sunday at the race. The people there were like oh ok, we'll take care of it.

Apparently, "taking care of it" meant only screwing up the time (I ran about a minute faster than the 1:19 result), but never actually fixing the issue. On monday, since the result was still up, I emailed them and, once again, they told me the problem would be fixed. The lesson here is that people are retarded. Something I've suspected all along.

Nevertheless, the point that this is only letsrun coverage I'll probably ever get is both hilarious and saddening.

Why on earth were you running with a woman's number?

Anybody have any idea why the times in the half got adjusted +8 or +9 seconds across the board? From reading above it seems like the original times were accurate. 4 of the guys I coach ran this along with the mother of one and all their finish times got adjusted +8 or +9. Not a big deal but would be nice to know what the correct finish times should be for our race files.

Every year it seems to be something with this race. With the price you would figure they would get things right. But hey, they'll probably raise rates and sell out again next year, so why fix things when the running public doesn't really seem to care.

Sorry Run7....i personally know katie Koski, the second place finisher in the half marathon, and she runs sub 18 minute 5kms uphill with a fridge on her back. 1:19 half marathon time sounds spot on to me.

Katie Koski was not the second place finisher in question -Katie was in the elite start - the second place finisher in question was Jacqueline Fillinger, which, if you read the entire thread, was actually a male wearing a female number. To reiterate, Katie Koski is held in very high regard and her time was never in question - I hope this clarifies for you. A thorough reading of this thread would provide further clarification as well. Thanks.

i would say you are retarded for running with someone else's #. this is definitely bad form and is banned at most races!!!