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I was a bit surprised about the christian brothers jump from like 5th or 6th to 2nd. They got a guy who's pretty good, stephen hill was a BA as a freshmen guess he's running well this season. Also Nova SE beat Florida Southern who beat Tampa so Tampa falls 6 spots. Benedict has several kenyans this year but do they have a 5th? Harding and Alabama Huntsville stay idle, I dont think they've raced yet this year.

September 10 New rankings come out. Who will move up who will move down?

-ASC moves up to number 1

-ACU moves down to number 2

-Western Moves down to Number 6

-Mankato moves up to 5

Any other guesses?

Mankato can't jump WSC as WSC is ranked 2nd regionally and Mankato is 3rd. Rules say the national rankings must keep region teams in the same order they appear in the regional polls.

Predictions... the top 8 stays the same. The teams that got jumped in the regional rankings (New Mexico Highlands, Southern Indiana, N. Kentucky) will fall... the teams that moved up in the regional rankings (Drury, Duluth, Anchorage) will move up...

Not that it will shake things up but, Wayne State will make a jump next week from not being ranked to being ranked in the top 15. They aren't ranked in the top 10 in their region, which is funny, and they will race Northern Kentucky and Ashland, who were both ranked last week.

They will make the national meet.

Wayne State cannot be ranked because they haven't paid their dues to the coaches association.

See rules like this are really shitty...if the team deserves to be ranked, let them be ranked. Also about Western and Mankato...is it not plausible for team A to beat team B in a smaller meet and then loose in a larger national meet even with equal performances? yes. larger fields have different dynamics, a true lead runner can really help you more in a big field. so again stupid rule.

laja wrote:

Wayne State cannot be ranked because they haven't paid their dues to the coaches association.

I believe the 1-5 pack split also helps a team in a bigger field. If one looks at a small meet and you have a lead runner then your 2-5 guys all split 20 secs with each other, you are going to have a similar score to a team who has a lead runner, but then their 2-5 guys split 1 min, lets say in front of and behind the 2-5 guys of the other team. The scores will be pretty similar.

If you take that same race and add 15 teams, the scores for both teams change alot. The front runners don't really change the score to much but the 2-5 guys do. The one with the smaller split will score better than the team that has the larger 2-5 pack split. This is only because more people will be in between the Team B with a bigger pack split, causing their score to go up, where as Team A won't have that many people in between there guys, causing their score to stay relatively the same.

laja wrote:

Mankato can't jump WSC as WSC is ranked 2nd regionally and Mankato is 3rd. Rules say the national rankings must keep region teams in the same order they appear in the regional polls.

Predictions... the top 8 stays the same. The teams that got jumped in the regional rankings (New Mexico Highlands, Southern Indiana, N. Kentucky) will fall... the teams that moved up in the regional rankings (Drury, Duluth, Anchorage) will move up...

What rule where? Looks like these regional ranking contradict your argument and apparently that "rule".

1. Adams S

2. Western St.

3. Minnesota State

4. Colorado School of Mines

5. Minnesota-Duluth (National Ranking 24)

6. Metro St. (National Ranking 16)

7. New Mexico Highlands (National Ranking 10)

Those were the preseaon rankings.

New rankings...

2. Adams

5. Western

6. Mankato

8. Mines

15. Duluth

16. Metro

18. Highlands

New Rankings are out:

-Top 9 stayed the same

-Everything changed below that

-Slippery rock isn't ranked

-Drury and Alaska Anchorage went from being not ranked to top 20

overall, nothing too exciting.

XCobserver wrote:

NM Highlands drops all the way to seventh in the Central--despite a pretty strong showing in their first race...Ngirakamaro and Kazingo will be a strong 1-2.It appears their #4 ran unnattached.

Their #4 ran unattached, and their #5 ran faster than the #5 last year.

So I guess the question is why did their #4 run unattached? We've had guys run unattached for us in the first meet in the past, and typically they are unattached the entire year. Either a planned Redshirt or an ineligible athlete....

That guy will need to run attached for them to move back up.

I think NM Highland finishes higher than they are ranked.

what have they done to meritt that? first they have to get by Adam, Western, Mines, Metro and UCCS in the RMAC

I don't want to get into the middle of an RMAC fight here, but what have Metro and UCCS done to merit your comment?

Metro was soundly beaten at the Regional meet last year, UCCS was not even a factor. Neither team has raced well enough after week 1 to say they are substantially better this season.

I agree about the NMHU #4---we'll have to see him count in a score, before he should be factored...Which leaves NMHU with:

The 10th place finisher from '07 (Who beat Braun soundly at the regional meet)

A second runer who ran 29:40-something on the track last spring

Another returnee who was 36th in '07

A fourth who ran pretty solid at the UNM meet

and...no fifth man to speak of yet

But...Metro's #5 was over 28 minutes at the Boulder time trial...UCCS's #5 barely broke 21 minutes for 6k-- equals over 28 minutes for 8k...so neither team showed great strength there either.

It will be interesting and fun to watch. Good luck to all the cross country squads this fall.

Harding, GV, Chico, and Mankato run this weekend (or friday). Who is stoked?!?!

first off Metro was running it as a tempo run on the Buffalo Ranch course, which is balls out hard.

second, ok you might have a point abotu UCCS but Coach Misch is very good, don't count then out just yet.

Ill tell you this, if you count metro's unattached guys they are looking good. I am curious to see how many of those guys ran that as a tempo run. but i would say their 1-4 are looking pretty good. Guess we will see.

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first off Metro was running it as a tempo run on the Buffalo Ranch course, which is balls out hard.

second, ok you might have a point abotu UCCS but Coach Misch is very good, don't count then out just yet.

This is what everybody always says early in the season, "I was just running at tempo, well they just ran it for a tempo, blahblah" Don't tell me they weren't going hard and racing other teams, Every body runs slow early in the season, just say you raced slow, don't make excuses.