Is 9.69/19.30 believable?

notdoped wrote:

I've just figured it out: drugs are just a way for the short sprinters like Johnson, Greene, Mitchell, Cason etc. to compete with the tall ones like Bolt, Lewis, Tommie Smith, Powell etc. It all make sense now. Lewis is 6'2" by the way.

Ummmmm yeaaa, that'll help us make a good excuse as to why our guys are way ahead of everyone else. SCIENCE? Who needs that, we can just make stuff up.

MJ wasn't short......

I would love to believe that Bolt is clean and legit. However, the sport of track & field (as well as cycling and baseball) have cultivated the current state of guilty (or highly skeptical) until proven innocent. Here is what I understand...

Performance enhancing drugs have been used in sprinting for many years.

Many of the fastest times over the previous 20 years may have been run with the assistance of PEDs.

We now have a runner OBLITERATING those times with great ease.

Unfortunately, we will have to wait a few years to see if the current performances hold up to future tests.

In the case of Marion Jones, they did not...

To put it another way...

Usain Bolt is that relationship that is PERFECT - too good to be true. Great conversation. Great Sex. You could spend hours doing mutually enjoyable activities. Or you could spend hours doing absolutely nothig. Your friends love her. Your family love her. But then the other shoe drops and you learn that if something seems too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.

Wait, are we still talking about Bolt???

You can take this statement to the bank and cash it. Usain Bolt and the entire Jamaican athletic team in Beijing are clean.

Sprinting in Jamaica is as football is to Brazil. It is the holy grail of anything done in the country.

The annual champs held for high school and college students attracts over 30,000 spectators (the highest of any junior event in the world - FACT).

Jamaicans don't take kindly to cheat and the embarrassment realized from cheating is a bigger price to pay than any gold medal.

Do you guys remember how fearful the Columbia was to go home when he scored the own goal?

well any Jamaican athlete found cheating in these Olympics might as well apply for Chinese citizen.

Lots of persons here making accusations haven't even taken the time to first do any forms of research, ohh he broke the record so he must be cheating well I say to you all who share this view - Blame the Americans for tarnishing the sport or better yet if you want to point fingers at a Jamaican, then blame the Jamaican who exposed Balco.

All of these comments about Bolt being great because of his height are ridiculous. We are in 2008, sprinting has been popular for how many years now? You think all of a sudden the secret to running fast is to be tall? Crap why didn't the Chinese recruit Yao Ming for their track team? The US really missed the boat on Shaq.

We'll never see an Olympic spring champion under 6'0" again, right? Clearly the reason why Tyson Gay couldn't get any medals was because he was only 5'11".

pwned n00bs wrote:

Where as Bolt is CRUSHING an olympic field by 10% or more.

idiot

I think Webb has giving his new batch of riods to bolt, hence why Bolt is running well and webb is not. This must be whats going on.

Not a homer wrote:

I would love to believe that Bolt is Legit. If the Carribian nations did out of competition (as in out of season) testing I could possibly belive it. As it stands I think the overwhelming dominance is unrealistic. Times coming down by half a second in a year?? Maybe in HS but not on the world class level.

And this does not mean I think ONLY Caribean athletes are drug cheats. The US has pelnety as well.

Don't forget the E. Africans, Cubans, lots of other "poor" countries avoid and circumvent out of season testing constantly.

Even if that were true, it would not explain why US athletes cannot pass batons, stay in their lanes, grab a water bottle at a water station without breaking their feet, figure out what to eat and what not to eat when overseas, walk on a balance beam, land on their feet when tumbling in gymnastics. Face it: US suckiness is mainly about US suckiness.

my theory is that since bolt didn't leave the island, he's probably clean. Anyone willing to leave for another country because of running, is dead serious about his/her running and do anything to win like dope.

Boy are you naive.

disagree strongly there. Must be the most insightful and profound post in quite some time here on Letsrun.com!

I have no problem being called naive for stating FACTS. From your comment I can see that you are capable to listen to any reason. Why should you thought, the thinking that the Jamaicans cheated is the only thing that probably allows you to sleep at nights as it is not possible to be beaten.

So guess what if it makes Americans feel any better about themselves and their performance then continue to make illogical accusations to keep sane but just know that you will NEVER see any of these athletes being caught for drugs.

I end simply cannot believing how stupid persons can be. Jamaica, a country of 2.8 million people who imports 90% of what it consumes (that would therefore include any drug they are taking) was not only able to conquer the world in sprinting but also the world in science but making an undetectable drug. If you persons actually knew anything about Jamaica, you would know how stupid the latter sounds.

I guess next we will see a homeless African finding a cure for aids.

he's got a history of running incredibly fast in his age group, so it's no huge surprise. michael johnson wasn't near him as a teen.

that being said, all the jamaicans look more ripped than other sprinters, so they may be a little "enhanced."

remember, drug-cheat science is ahead of drug-test science, so don't even think the testers are going to catch sophisticated cheats.

Bolt is everything the Olympics are supposed to be about. He isn’t the product of some rich country, some elaborate training program that churns out gold medals by any means necessary.

He’s a breath of fresh air, a guy who came out of nowhere to enrapture the world with his athletic performance and colorful personality. This is no dead-eye product of some massive machine.

He was himself, and the world loved him for it.

On his own force of will, Bolt has become the break-out star of these Games. He saved the post-Michael Phelps Olympics. It wasn’t so much his world-record times, but the flair, the fun.

No one at the track had a problem with this guy; they understood he is everything the sport needs to recover from an era of extreme doping. The Lightning Bolt made people care about track again, something that seemed impossible two weeks ago.

“I don’t feel like he’s being disrespectful,” American Shawn Crawford told the Associated Press. “He deserves to dance.”

Here is the deal wrote:

I realize you're one of the board idiots but that wasn't the posters point.

the posters point was his own non-realization of what ha happene. he came to us and admitted he had a problem realizing that it had been done. its his own personal problem, no ours.

i have not accepted the fact that Tergats wr was ever beaten, and i never will. think there are several flaws and advantages that geb had that Tergat didnt have. i dont ever have to accept the fact that it was bearly broken, but you have to accept the fact that i haven come t realization of it and may not ever accept it. you also have to deal with the continuation of my posts on this website, despite my disreguard of the recent marathon fluke that occured.

I'd love to believe that Bolt was clean, but I just can't see how that's possible. The ease with which he ran a 9.69 was questionable, and then to come back in the same Games and break probably the strongest WR out there? He's gotta be on something--he should be tested and tested consistently out of competition. My friend asked me how I can think Phelps is clean and Bolt dirty when Phelps completely dominated the swimming events--but the bottom line is Phelps has been consistent over the years, 8 golds was believable for him based on the last Olympics and he has been dominant his entire career. Bolt's rise to superstardom was quite rapid, he dropped huge chunks of time fast and dropped over three tenths of a second to break an untouchable WR--people simply do not make that big of an improvement in a 200 meter race that quickly without some type of help.

Additionally, based on how shitty the NBC announcers are, how have they not questioned whether or not Bolt is clean? They can rip on American athletes when they're down, but an obviously questionable performance gets no recognition?

Because those said announcers have done their research and know that they have know grounds to question the performance.

Ato Boldon especially knows this first hand.