I'm not being elitist, but I HAVE slow runners.

got a goint wrote:

I'm not angry but very passionate. My concern lies in the constant 'dumbing down' of standards. My prs are very respectable, thanks for asking.

well, what are they? thanks for answering. I run 15:58 and don't consider myself fast unless my competition is within 30 seconds(meaning i have a shot at beating them) faster than my time. Until, you run sub 13:20(meaning they have a shot at beating anyone albeit in a very sit & kick race), you are a slow runner in the world of running overall.

ok everyone, imposters included. In no sense, whatsoever can you refer to 2.25 as mediocre. It just isn't. You'd have to be a damned fine athlete to achieve that. I'm all for triers but if you can't get yourself into sub 10 minute shape you are one lazy dude. The general population seemed to manage it a few years ago. Why not now? Or do we just accept it?

I for one totally agree with the OP. It is actually a misnomer to call them slow runners, fore they are hardly running at all. A better name would be running posers. They buy all the stuff, come to the events, and look as if they are participating. But, they don't really try, and in the back of there minds they smirk at those who do. Then, they go back to work and act as though they are fit - or are trying to be.

They are hypocrites of the worst order. They get the best of both words of pretending they are runners in instances where it would give them stature, and then they are nonrunners when it is to their advantage to be more "normal". Indeed they are selfish manipulative people, and their conduct should not be commended. Those of you who think they have taken the first steps off the couch have just been hoodwinked.

Finally, they have ruined the sport by both lowering the standards, and by enticing weaker RDs to cater to the dollars that these posers collectively bring to events. Neighbors of the posers can't be impressed with the "sport" of running when these morbidly obese whales put on their little shorts to go posing for a half mile around the block. I'v also seen where races actually gave the best prize to the last person to finish. Deplorable! The OP is spot on, slow runners are an inestimable drain on the sport.

newRD wrote:The OP is spot on, slow runners are an inestimable drain on the sport.

By the second page of this thread, I had pretty much decided that "still annoyed" was in fact "newRD" who we know by many other names (GBF, etc) from years gone by for similar anti-jogger themes.

I'd give you 10/10 for the response you've provoked, but 0/10 for doing it in a mean-spirited thread. Overall score:

5/10

Well, aren't you the LR troll historian. Who are you? I have an idea, but it would be somewhat interesting. Does your real name hate 4 letters and end in an A? If so, how are you - hope all is going well over there. BTW, your guess that I am "annoyed" or "still annoyed" was a wrong one.

Still Annoyed wrote:

Anyone can enter - but if they fail to make the (generously easy) standard, then they don\'t get a time, medal or t-shirt.

I totally agree with this. Just like the Comrades Marathon, if you don't finish in 12 hours.. Oh Well. no medal, no finishing time. This makes people try harder next time!

Since at most most races everyone gets a medal,shirt and finishing time, people become satisfied with that and never train harder. Look how many training programs exist to just help people complete a marathon... what's the point of just completing one? Just so you can say you did?

newRD wrote:

Does your real name hate 4 letters and end in an A? If so, how are you - hope all is going well over there.

Man no matter what name you use you sure do have a problem with the words "hate" or "have".

TROLLMETER: 9/10

You guys think there might be a small chance that he meant to say HAVE instead of HATE? This thread would have died in 15 minutes if it didn't say have. Sneaky, effective trolling for you, Sir.

newRD wrote: Well, aren't you the LR troll historian.

Well, duhhhhh, yeah. Hence the name.

You're the worst kind of troll. There's nothing funny in your trolling efforts, you just get decent people riled up for no good reason. Now the guy who started the nipguard thread - that's some entertaining trolling.

Are you going to answer my question?

newRD wrote: Are you going to answer my question?

I would wish people like you would not show up. You might not think so, but YOU and small minded people like YOU bring the quality of "our" sport down.

It takes all types to form a body of runners and everyone is fighting their own fight. Your argument is irrelevant. I would worry about your own deal. If you choose not to clap for the people who are middle of the pack and slower, that's your choice, but my dad finished a marathon just before he died and we were so proud of him and so were all of his friends.

Go crawl under your rock that shades the your mean, small minded world and stay away. You really suck man. You really suck!!!

quote]still annoyed wrote:

Oh and I suppose you've failed to notice the decline in the overall quality of our sport. Open your eyes. What's your solution pillock?[/quote]

Vhanks. BVW, you do a good job of scoring - I usually agree. I don'v vhink I am mean-spirived because what I wrive is usually so obtiously oter-the-vop ridiculous.

Don't play that card on me. That's not fair.

You were not trying to be elitist but that is exactly what you are. My dad ran the marathon in 5 hours. But in the process he raised over 10,000 dollars for cancer. Marathons help fundraise for disease research. FYI not everybody runs the marathon to break the "sacred" 3 hour mark, so screw you.

you ingnant boy wrote:

raised over 10,000 dollars for cancer.

Hopefully around 5k actually made it to something that will help.

You SHAVE slow runners? Dean Karnazes shaves his legs and chest since he is a hairy Greek jogger and slow runner (who claims to be a bad ass). So you want to shave Dean K.? Clearly you harbor (HAVE) latent homoerotic urges for Dean Karnazes and want to shave him from head to toe before he takes you like a frail convict.

We get it.

I really don't understand the issues that some people have with slow runners. Are you so good that you can't find races that are at your level? If your answer is yes, your last name must be Bekele. If not, then the "dumbing down" of our sport isn't effecting you. If you ever lose, obviously the low level of competition that you speak of is still high enough for your purposes.

If you don't want to race slower people, run faster races. The great thing about running is that there are easily accessible races for every ability level from weekend warrior to professional.

As for the idea that people don't respect our sport because they see slow people who consider themselves to be runners, I don't think that this is true at all. These people exist in every sport. People who play in the local YMCA basketball league or who play pickup games at the park a couple times a week consider themselves to be basketball players, but no one looks at the 40 year old guy air balling from the free throw line and says, "wow, basketball is a joke. Those guys playing in the NBA must not be real athletes because Joe the accountant sucks." In the same way, people wouldn't just assume a correlation between the performance of some housewife at a local 5K and the legitimacy of elite runners.

Even if people did think less of my sport because slow people are allowed to run, I've been out of middle school long enough that I don't care what random people think about the activities that I participate in. Hopefully you'll get to the same point some day.

I think he may have meant "I HOVE slow runners," as in, the past tense of "heave," as in, he hove them off the course at the last road race after he deemed that their time was expired, he was told not do that anymore, and he is now annoyed.