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manchild wrote:

Been to Atlanta in the summer and Mombasa in March. Not much different. Malmo, go get your vagisil with the rest of the Americans and keep training for that elusive great race. Eventually those perfect conditions will allow you to run fast.

The rest of the world is running in those oppressive conditions - what is wrong with the wimpy Americans?

I couldn't agree more. Malmo's whining about the weather should be the American's official excuse for why the best decided not to go. That's ok because the best in the world will be there to race with no mamby pamby excuses about the warm weather, while our best whine and complain to a race director at the Jacksonville 8k because they weren't provided with fresh bagels and Evian upon arrival at the Jacksonville Holiday Inn.

kaitainen wrote:

12-13 mph (i think it said mph rather than kph) winds aren't nothing, although they are not particularly strong. nearly 100 degrees is tough this time of year for anyone from the northern hemisphere. plus the humidity..

Kaitenen, it's not 100, that's what the 74 dew point coupled with 88-89 temps "feels like." I've run Peachtree in similar conditions, but with the advantage of an 8:00am start, and it was just a death march. I had blurred eyesight for the rest of the day.

The organizers picked the late afternoon start to take advantage of the daily sea breezes in hopes to mitigate the oppressive heat somewhat.

Malmo only drinks Evian wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Malmo's whining about the weather should be the American's official excuse for why the best decided not to go.

Why aren't you there tough guy? What's your excuse?

"Why aren't you there tough guy? What's your excuse?"

Malmo, you continue to amaze with the stupid comments!

I'm not a professional runner kid. As for dealing with heat stress, it's something that I do for a living. Maybe next time it's too hot I should yell to my supervisor "Hey chief the fire's hot, I don't want to go in!" Whether the World Championships are in Antarctica or Death Valley, they should wear that USA singlet with pride and represent their country, like most of the world's top runners that are competing. Why am I not there? I work Saturday and you can call that an excuse if you want pal.

Malmo only drinks Evian wrote:

I'm not a professional runner kid. As for dealing with heat stress, it's something that I do for a living. Maybe next time it's too hot I should yell to my supervisor "Hey chief the fire's hot, I don't want to go in!"

Ask you're supervisor to transfer you away from fries, over to counter. You always wanted a desk job didn't you? The register does all the math for you so you won't be overwhelmed. Go for it.

ah, yes, i misread the fuzzy type.

unless i can pretend like i meant 88-89 degrees is "nearly 100".

malmo wrote:

Malmo only drinks Evian wrote:

I'm not a professional runner kid. As for dealing with heat stress, it's something that I do for a living. Maybe next time it's too hot I should yell to my supervisor "Hey chief the fire's hot, I don't want to go in!"

Ask you're supervisor to transfer you away from fries, over to counter. You always wanted a desk job didn't you? The register does all the math for you so you won't be overwhelmed. Go for it.

I dare you to go down to your local FDNY fire station and tell them what you just told me.

that's an interesting point that everyone is bringing up. Looking at the other national cross country teams, how many of their top runners gave up their qualifying spots? Anyone know? Because it would kind of look stupid if all the other countries top runners came while ours are sitting at home, but ours wouldn't look so bad if a number of top qualifiers also decided not to compete.

malmo wrote:

Malmo only drinks Evian wrote:

I'm not a professional runner kid. As for dealing with heat stress, it's something that I do for a living. Maybe next time it's too hot I should yell to my supervisor "Hey chief the fire's hot, I don't want to go in!"

Ask you're supervisor to transfer you away from fries, over to counter. You always wanted a desk job didn't you? The register does all the math for you so you won't be overwhelmed. Go for it.

Malmo, that has to be your best reply, definitely a classic!!!

midwesta wrote:

that's an interesting point that everyone is bringing up. Looking at the other national cross country teams, how many of their top runners gave up their qualifying spots? Anyone know? Because it would kind of look stupid if all the other countries top runners came while ours are sitting at home, but ours wouldn't look so bad if a number of top qualifiers also decided not to compete.

You usually don't get all of the top runners to show at World XC trials in any given year. Those who do qualify generally go. This year is an obvious exception and for good reason.

well yeah, but did the other countries go as deep as we had to? We didn't send anywhere near our best team for the men or women, and I was just curious if the other countries had to go as deep into the lineups as we had.

midwesta wrote:

well yeah, but did the other countries go as deep as we had to? We didn't send anywhere near our best team for the men or women, and I was just curious if the other countries had to go as deep into the lineups as we had.

I don't know and don't know what difference does that makes? We rarely send our best line-up to World XC, if at all, in spite of what dreamers on a message board thinks things should be.

While I don't agree with malmo on this one, I completely lost respect for you when you started pulling out the: "I'm a tough guy, cuz Ima fire fighter" BS.

I get so sick of fat ass firefighters/police officers thinking they are the toughest SOBS out there. (P.S. you have a very admirable job that can be quite stressful, but that doesn't automatically default you as a tough guy.)

I can kick a firefighter's ass just as easy as special ed teachers. Actually I might be more worried about the special ed teacher because they have a job that might allow them to take martial arts, mma, boxing, or what not in their spare time.

You F'n firefighters think your tough just because you showed up for work that day. Maybe it's part of the bravado, or maybe you use it to pysch yourself up, but stop pretending that because you fight fires for a living you are some sort of tough guy or know how to fight.

Oh, and by the way, maybe if you studied harder in school, you wouldn't have had to resort to firefighting to pay your bills.

Now go drink a couple of cold ones with your buddies and stand around looking tough. . .

midwesta wrote:

We didn't send anywhere near our best team for the men or women,

You can pretty much confirm that we never send our best lineup in any given year. Nothing new here.

sounds pretty cool.

wow, you're kind of an ass. This question wasn't necessarily aimed directly at you, so I'm sorry to get your panties in a bundle. I asked the question because it would make our runners look even more stupid if they're complaining about the heat, the security, whatever, while all the other runners wouldn't seem to give a shit. However, if the countries also had a lot of trouble fielding a full team, like the US did, then it would give some credence to your argument.

midwesta wrote:

wow, you're kind of an ass. This question wasn't necessarily aimed directly at you, so I'm sorry to get your panties in a bundle. I asked the question because it would make our runners look even more stupid if they're complaining about the heat, the security, whatever, while all the other runners wouldn't seem to give a shit. However, if the countries also had a lot of trouble fielding a full team, like the US did, then it would give some credence to your argument.

WTF? You asked a question, I answered it and gave you a resource so you could look up the details yourself. What's the problem?

midwesta wrote:

Looking at the other national cross country teams, how many of their top runners gave up their qualifying spots? Anyone know? Because it would kind of look stupid if all the other countries top runners came while ours are sitting at home, but ours wouldn't look so bad if a number of top qualifiers also decided not to compete.

Canada sent no senior teams at all to World Cross this year. I consider World Cross to be the pinnacle of running but I'm not in the position of deciding to go or not. Several buddies of mine have qualified in the past and passed on going.

To the Malmo drinks evian guy; arguing with a former pro runner about pro runner decisions makes as much sense as a pro runner arguing with you about how to best fight fires, if in fact you are a fire fighter. It's a no-can-win for you. YOu can have an opinion but you have no credibility or perspective.