why is everyone coming on here and posting their mile time -
you are runners! mostly self-selected your mile time is irrelevant
so stop saying i ran 5:0x or 4:4x in 3rd grade
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it is absolutely irrelevant and i gurantee no one cares
why is everyone coming on here and posting their mile time -
you are runners! mostly self-selected your mile time is irrelevant
so stop saying i ran 5:0x or 4:4x in 3rd grade
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it is absolutely irrelevant and i gurantee no one cares
....f wrote:
I ran 5:10 as my first mile ever. No training.
It's 4 laps not 2.
Flagpole Willy wrote:
Think of all the FAT baseball players (catchers) all the fat football players (linemen), all the fat non-players,
What part of
2.) Aren't obese
didn't you understand?
absolutely no talent is needed at all. i've run 5 flat without any workouts and without running for 3 weeks, and i have very little talent. 15-20 miles a week will get almost anyone(regarding your conditions) into 5:30 mile shape.
year one: typical week
monday - 7 miles
tueday - 4 miles
wednesday- 5 miles
thursday - 2 miles
friday-race 1 mile
total = 20 miles
year two tpyical week:
Monday 8 miles
tuesday easy 3 miles
wednesday fartleks 5 miles
thursday 2 miles
friday race 1 mile jog mile
total = 20 miles
year three typical week
Monday 12 x 400 (4 miles w/ wu)
Tuesday 2 miles + strides
Wednesday 6 x 800 (4 miles w/ wu)
Thursday 2 miles + strides
Friday race 1mile jog 1 miles
Saturday 6 miles
Total = 20 miles
Year 4 typical week
Monday 16 x 400 (5 miles w/wu)
Tuesday 2 miles + strides
Wednesday 8 x 200 (3 miles w/wu)
Thursday 2 miles + strides
Friday race 1 mile jog 1 mile
Saturday 7 miles
Total = 20 miles
Obviously change up workouts and such to fit needs. During off season, follow year one phase except friday easy run or even a game!
I would gather that pretty much any boy fitting parametrs could break 5:30.
* note: that this is a quick workout plan, this does not mean this is how I train my runners. They are different individually and have desires to run much faster than 5:30.
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you need SOME talent to run 5:30...but not much. i do not have much talent but ran 5:17 in eighth grade off of 10 miles a week. senior year i ran 4:19 running 80 miles a week. if you train, you should be able to break 5:30. i agree with the earlier poster who said 5:00 mile is a whole different ballpark.
Hell, with a couple years of solid training an average high school kid should be able to do repeats faster than 5:30.
I would agree with the Coach of the original poster. If a high schooler has average talent, with some work and coaching the should be able to run 5:30. I was not a runner in high school, I was a wrestler and pretty average at that. At the end of my senior season our coach timed us in the mile, I ran 5:45. This was just from training for wrestling. We did do some running in practice but probably only a mile to a mile and a half a day at an easy pace. Maybe because we trained to go hard for 6 minutes in a match this works well for the mile, but I really don't think I was exceptionally talented or properly trained for the distance. In college I went out for the Wrestling team (never made it) but the coach wanted everyone to run sub 6 after our fall conditioning and all but a few guys did it (one had birth defects in his feet which limited his running ability).
The stats from the Race for the Cure don't say anything, most of those people are in their 30' and 40's and spent most of their twenty's drinking and eating and decided to start exercising when they hit 30 so they don't have a heart attack and die young. That was me, I started running at 34 and have a 21:40 pr for the 5k. 17 and 18 olds have a much better base level of fitness, even the video game playing couch potato high schoolers of today. I could never get anywhere near a 5:30 now, but I think I could have easily attained it had I actually trained in high school for running.
as long as a person is not a fatass and not disabled there is no reason why they cant run under a 530 mile even 5 flat. there is very little talent involved for that slow of a time. even if they have to work a little harder then more talented ppl they should still be able to run that time
I think a disabled obese 12 year old with little desire could run a 5:30.
not much for a male. not like a 5:30 mile is anything to write home about.
ANYONE, any male teenager, can break 5:00 for the mile if they train a little. If they don't it is for one reason only - they don't want to. Meaning they don't care or they are too wimpy to push it. It takes no talent whatsoever to break 5:00 as a teenager.
kartelite wrote:
So we have:
"No talent whatsoever...I still broke 5 minutes for the mile by the time I graduated."
"I have little talent...and ran a 5:05 mile in my first track meet as a high school junior."
"our team's talent level was -10. basically everyone broke 5:30 for the mile and many people broke 5."
"basically no real running talent at all"
"ran a 5:41 when I was 14 without any particular talent for running."
"i have only had a few teammates less talented than me, and i still managed to go 4:26"
"i have no talent at all and I ran 4:56 as a junior"
"As a senior, I decided I cared about running, put in consistent training, and went 15:30...I'd say I didn't have any particular disposition to racing"
"I have limited "talent"."
"Hell, at 36 and no talent I can run about a 5:10 mile"
I think it's fantastic how everyone loves to brag about how little "talent" they have...why is this? False modesty? Need to attribute success to their own willpower? Hoping that someone responds with "actually you're quite talented"? It's like it's a contest to see who the fastest "guy with no talent" is.
How would it ya'll feel if Alan Webb got on here and said, "Well you know I'd like to be up there with guys like Bekele, but for a guy with not much talent I think I'm doing pretty well."
It has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with being honest. I've never broken 65 seconds for 400m, but I've run 4:57 for the mile. There's plenty of people who can run 400m much faster than I can, as well as the mile, IF they are willing to train. That is the key. Do I have some talent? Probably. Compared to most, probably not, but I'm willing to train and push my body as far as I can. Perhaps that's the talent, but it certainly isn't physical as I have no speed whatsoever.
So are you saying 400 speed = mile talent?
If that was the case Jeremy Wariner has more "talent" for the mile than El Guerrouj. Let's not compare apples and oranges.
ummm.... wrote:
ANYONE, any male teenager, can break 5:00 for the mile if they train a little.
A little? Don't think so.
With 80+MPW and lots of speedwork? Probably.
I ran under 4:50 7 times freshman year and then down to 4'43 and 4'34 with barely any training freshman training. I only trained 4 times a week. I thought taking a day off was as important as training hard, made major improvements when i started training seriously.