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1 month ago 04/12/2026 12:23pm EDT

re: pupilpied

pupilpied wrote:
C had space to go right as the bend ended, that was the fatal mistake.

This is exactly it. This modern "strategy" of "running the shortest distance no matter what" which has become so prominent largely due to wavelight and "performance efficiency" has/is secretly wrecking race instinct and race craft.

I said this earlier, Hollingsworth should have won this race going away. Same way Hocker should have won the world indoor 3000m going away. With 120m to go she is directly behind her with Caldwell behind her, nothing is stopping her choosing the shoulder over choosing the rail - and yet we are choosing the rail. World indoor 3000m Josh Kerr chooses the shoulder, Cole Hocker chooses the rail.

I don't get it.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 12:28pm EDT

re: Awsi Dooger

Nonsense, Jess has admitted she felt Claudia coming ( was there also.a big screen?) and moved to her left to obstruct Claudulia's progress. Such a move is illegal.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 1:58pm EDT

re: Salvitore Stitchmo

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
pupilpied wrote:
C had space to go right as the bend ended, that was the fatal mistake.
This is exactly it. This modern "strategy" of "running the shortest distance no matter what" which has become so prominent largely due to wavelight and "performance efficiency" has/is secretly wrecking race instinct and race craft.
I said this earlier, Hollingsworth should have won this race going away. Same way Hocker should have won the world indoor 3000m going away. With 120m to go she is directly behind her with Caldwell behind her, nothing is stopping her choosing the shoulder over choosing the rail - and yet we are choosing the rail. World indoor 3000m Josh Kerr chooses the shoulder, Cole Hocker chooses the rail.
I don't get it.

You don’t get it because (as you showed us in the Hocker thread) you don’t understand the mechanics of high level racing. You’re looking at this as a fan and not as a competitor.

The margins are fine. The shortest distance is the rail. Even decades ago when I was racing we were instructed to aggressively chase the rail until the last curve if it was there, only swinging wide if the runner ahead was clearly tiring. This is NOT a new concept. This is NOT some newfangled technique attributable to wave light technology. Champions (and those who aspired to be) have used this technique for a very long time, because it works.

You don’t “get it” because you never learned how, or were taught how, to win.

C took the spaced opened up to her. J cut back in front of her, and in essence forced the trip. You’re acting like C had time to make a decision to come around the back of J, but it was forced on her because she got closed down on the rail (which is a racing faux pas and impeding another runner, everyone knows that’s not cool and is illegal). This is not the same as moving in front of a runner you have passed. They were near even, and J cut into C.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 3:04pm EDT

re: Squeezed

1 month ago 04/12/2026 4:57pm EDT

re: SDW

SDW wrote:
Sweaty old Steve wrote:
Look at vid below at 4:29. Hull was in the outer half of the lane leaving room at the rail, and Hollingsworth moved up into that open space almost level with Hull. Then Hull squeezed in towards the rail cutting off Hollingsworth.
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lv0Lf5kVC4
If you’re coming up the inside, you have to be fully clear. Hull didn’t cut her off, she held her position. That’s normal racing, not a foul under World Athletics rules. Hollingsworth Should be DQ’d and its shames the officials are so off in this one by reinstating her.

You have never read the rules. Anyone who’s officiated would agree that Hull caused the contact and not DQ the runner she was moving into (as she often does).

1 month ago 04/12/2026 5:27pm EDT

re: Squeezed

Squeezed wrote:
You don’t get it because (as you showed us in the Hocker thread) you don’t understand the mechanics of high level racing. You’re looking at this as a fan and not as a competitor.
The margins are fine. The shortest distance is the rail. Even decades ago when I was racing we were instructed to aggressively chase the rail until the last curve if it was there, only swinging wide if the runner ahead was clearly tiring. This is NOT a new concept. This is NOT some newfangled technique attributable to wave light technology. Champions (and those who aspired to be) have used this technique for a very long time, because it works.
You don’t “get it” because you never learned how, or were taught how, to win.
C took the spaced opened up to her. J cut back in front of her, and in essence forced the trip. You’re acting like C had time to make a decision to come around the back of J, but it was forced on her because she got closed down on the rail (which is a racing faux pas and impeding another runner, everyone knows that’s not cool and is illegal). This is not the same as moving in front of a runner you have passed. They were near even, and J cut into C.

Well at least other posters clearly agree with you....

Hahaha

1 month ago 04/12/2026 5:52pm EDT

re: Squeezed

Squeezed wrote:
You don’t get it because (as you showed us in the Hocker thread) you don’t understand the mechanics of high level racing. You’re looking at this as a fan and not as a competitor.
The margins are fine. The shortest distance is the rail. Even decades ago when I was racing we were instructed to aggressively chase the rail until the last curve if it was there, only swinging wide if the runner ahead was clearly tiring. This is NOT a new concept. This is NOT some newfangled technique attributable to wave light technology. Champions (and those who aspired to be) have used this technique for a very long time, because it works.
You don’t “get it” because you never learned how, or were taught how, to win.
C took the spaced opened up to her. J cut back in front of her, and in essence forced the trip. You’re acting like C had time to make a decision to come around the back of J, but it was forced on her because she got closed down on the rail (which is a racing faux pas and impeding another runner, everyone knows that’s not cool and is illegal). This is not the same as moving in front of a runner you have passed. They were near even, and J cut into C.

this is not time trialing it is racing.

racing is about track position vs your openonents. you dont want them to just go wide, you want to fore them well wide. this is gamesmanship. you also cant be predictable.

J was perfectly positioned througout, until C reklessly cut behind her.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 6:21pm EDT

re: Salvitore Stitchmo

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Well at least other posters clearly agree with you....
Hahaha

In Hockers defense, this was a much simpler scenario. This wasn’t two Ethiopians running interference with Nuguse on a 200m track and 300+ left. This was Hollingsworth with a full stride in front and behind at 150m to go and deciding not to swing wide and pass Hull as is the most elementary move in track. And indeed one Hocker did to beat Kimeli for 5,000m gold. Why she got cute I have no idea.

Even in the infamous semi where he got DQed was in a far more difficult pickle than this. The best guess is Hollingsworth was just too fearful that Hull had some insane kick to respond to the move. That is far from her calling card and you’d think holding off GHB would provide further confidence.

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1 month ago 04/12/2026 7:05pm EDT

re: Salvitore Stitchmo

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Squeezed wrote:
You don’t get it because (as you showed us in the Hocker thread) you don’t understand the mechanics of high level racing. You’re looking at this as a fan and not as a competitor.
The margins are fine. The shortest distance is the rail. Even decades ago when I was racing we were instructed to aggressively chase the rail until the last curve if it was there, only swinging wide if the runner ahead was clearly tiring. This is NOT a new concept. This is NOT some newfangled technique attributable to wave light technology. Champions (and those who aspired to be) have used this technique for a very long time, because it works.
You don’t “get it” because you never learned how, or were taught how, to win.
C took the spaced opened up to her. J cut back in front of her, and in essence forced the trip. You’re acting like C had time to make a decision to come around the back of J, but it was forced on her because she got closed down on the rail (which is a racing faux pas and impeding another runner, everyone knows that’s not cool and is illegal). This is not the same as moving in front of a runner you have passed. They were near even, and J cut into C.
Well at least other posters clearly agree with you....
Hahaha

Other posters on letsrun don’t have to. The officials did.

Prior pros, officials, and coaches will agree with this ruling.

sc42 gets it.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 7:53pm EDT

re: pupilpied

pupilpied wrote:
ive watched the insta view again.
C should defnitiely be disqualified. From the rail, she swerves to the edge of lane 1/2 as she trips J, then to avoid J she goes back to the rail.
Then, in front, she swerves from the rail to the edge of lane 1/2. DQ.

Claudia was all over the place. Jess moved just marginally back in, which she can do. There's no rule that you have to get a protractor out and run dead line straight.

Claudia should have come into the straight and gone around the outside, like anyone else (except Hocker). With that slow pace, Claudia would have outkicked Jess if she'd done that. She was squeezed on the outside, went out, went in, clipped the heels, should be a DQ.

1 month ago 04/12/2026 9:24pm EDT

re: Squeezed

Squeezed wrote:
You don’t get it because (as you showed us in the Hocker thread) you don’t understand the mechanics of high level racing. You’re looking at this as a fan and not as a competitor.
The margins are fine. The shortest distance is the rail. Even decades ago when I was racing we were instructed to aggressively chase the rail until the last curve if it was there, only swinging wide if the runner ahead was clearly tiring. This is NOT a new concept. This is NOT some newfangled technique attributable to wave light technology. Champions (and those who aspired to be) have used this technique for a very long time, because it works.
You don’t “get it” because you never learned how, or were taught how, to win.
C took the spaced opened up to her. J cut back in front of her, and in essence forced the trip. You’re acting like C had time to make a decision to come around the back of J, but it was forced on her because she got closed down on the rail (which is a racing faux pas and impeding another runner, everyone knows that’s not cool and is illegal). This is not the same as moving in front of a runner you have passed. They were near even, and J cut into C.

...To add to this. Immediately after the race Hull said " I then saw her shadow to the left of me..."

I'll try and find the quote on the replays, but iirc, it was ..."I moved over .." or something like that

Make of that what you will, but sounds very incriminating to me. You cannot say, "I did nothing.." after an admission like that.

On top of that I would suggest doing away with big screens that are visible to the runners. Race the old fashioned way

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