From the race analysis on IAAF's site: 55.01, 1:51.74, 2:34.54, 2:48.22, 3:29.26)
Jakob 3:28.24 (From the on-screen clock: 54.82, 1:51.38, 2:33.39, 2:47.27, 3:28.24. From the race analysis on the Olympic site: 54.9, 1:51.5, 2:33.5, 2:47.3, 3:28.24)
Myers looked smooth, not effortless. Myers is subjected to year round testing, unlike East Africans, say Wanyonyi, whose coach has six athletes under suspension for drug use and now has testing equipment at his camp to try and keep others from getting busyed. Just sayin’.
According the AIU, Kenya’s average OOC testing volume is 6.5 for their athletes at Worlds in Tokyo, 2nd overall.
Australia ranks dead last in testing for countries with 30 or more athletes at 1.7 OOC tests per athlete, and 35% of the team have no tests at all.
Laros is a huge talent as well. Turns 21 on 4/17. His range from 800 to 5000 is astonishing.
Expecting big things from Laros and Meyers this year and beyond. I imagine that will be THE rivalry at 1500 over the next 4-5 yrs.
If we’ve learned anything of late in the M1500 it’s that pinning down 2 athletes might be futile. The event is deep and always throwing up new threats. Ahead of Laros at Worlds I don’t think we saw Reynold Cheruiyots A+ day but he still medaled. And then Hocker is still plenty in his prime through 2029
Laros is a huge talent as well. Turns 21 on 4/17. His range from 800 to 5000 is astonishing.
Expecting big things from Laros and Meyers this year and beyond. I imagine that will be THE rivalry at 1500 over the next 4-5 yrs.
If we’ve learned anything of late in the M1500 it’s that pinning down 2 athletes might be futile. The event is deep and always throwing up new threats. Ahead of Laros at Worlds I don’t think we saw Reynold Cheruiyots A+ day but he still medaled. And then Hocker is still plenty in his prime through 2029
I agree that there is a great deal of talent out there and narrowing down to just two may be limiting. Still, I believe that particular rivalry will be extremely compelling given there skill sets and comparable age (14mos apart).
Myers looked smooth, not effortless. Myers is subjected to year round testing, unlike East Africans, say Wanyonyi, whose coach has six athletes under suspension for drug use and now has testing equipment at his camp to try and keep others from getting busyed. Just sayin’.
According the AIU, Kenya’s average OOC testing volume is 6.5 for their athletes at Worlds in Tokyo, 2nd overall.
Australia ranks dead last in testing for countries with 30 or more athletes at 1.7 OOC tests per athlete, and 35% of the team have no tests at all.
Kenya is the world leader these days in athletes popped for PEDs. Sure, the AIU can claim it wants to avoid the usual defensive screeches of Africans and their apologists (racism! etc) but people are realizing that claims and reality are two different things.
There’s little doubt a lot of “substitution” goes on in Kenya for OOC results, after all, some of this was demonstrated first-hand in Rio ‘16 when the Kenyans had subs (coaches) getting in line for drug tests. When the men were merely threatened beforehand with higher scrutiny in last year’s WCs, the Africans had a bit of a drop off in performance one could say, and more than a few decided to hit the roads while the increased scrutiny lasts. Hearing about silent bans for Ethiopians like Aman doesn’t help the perception of what’s going on in Africa either, for those not wearing the rose-tinted glasses of the apologist.
Look into how AIU actually works on putting their numbers together. They are doing very little in Africa. Taking African Federations at their word and using their “results” is merely aiding and abetting. It’s all BS. They can “sneak up” on athletes in Australia, appear at the front door. Let’s see them do that for real in Iten. Let’s see them appear with no warning at Berardelli’s camp and follow everyone around. For days or weeks …🤣
Kenya is the world leader these days in athletes popped for PEDs. Sure, the AIU can claim it wants to avoid the usual defensive screeches of Africans and their apologists (racism! etc) but people are realizing that claims and reality are two different things.
There’s little doubt a lot of “substitution” goes on in Kenya for OOC results, after all, some of this was demonstrated first-hand in Rio ‘16 when the Kenyans had subs (coaches) getting in line for drug tests. When the men were merely threatened beforehand with higher scrutiny in last year’s WCs, the Africans had a bit of a drop off in performance one could say, and more than a few decided to hit the roads while the increased scrutiny lasts. Hearing about silent bans for Ethiopians like Aman doesn’t help the perception of what’s going on in Africa either, for those not wearing the rose-tinted glasses of the apologist.
Look into how AIU actually works on putting their numbers together. They are doing very little in Africa. Taking African Federations at their word and using their “results” is merely aiding and abetting. It’s all BS. They can “sneak up” on athletes in Australia, appear at the front door. Let’s see them do that for real in Iten. Let’s see them appear with no warning at Berardelli’s camp and follow everyone around. For days or weeks …🤣
Aw c’mon. Thoughtsleader was just doing a little virtue-signaling. Just like the AIU does to pretend Kenya isn’t as huge a problem as they really are.
Kenya is the world leader these days in athletes popped for PEDs. Sure, the AIU can claim it wants to avoid the usual defensive screeches of Africans and their apologists (racism! etc) but people are realizing that claims and reality are two different things.
There’s little doubt a lot of “substitution” goes on in Kenya for OOC results, after all, some of this was demonstrated first-hand in Rio ‘16 when the Kenyans had subs (coaches) getting in line for drug tests. When the men were merely threatened beforehand with higher scrutiny in last year’s WCs, the Africans had a bit of a drop off in performance one could say, and more than a few decided to hit the roads while the increased scrutiny lasts. Hearing about silent bans for Ethiopians like Aman doesn’t help the perception of what’s going on in Africa either, for those not wearing the rose-tinted glasses of the apologist.
Look into how AIU actually works on putting their numbers together. They are doing very little in Africa. Taking African Federations at their word and using their “results” is merely aiding and abetting. It’s all BS. They can “sneak up” on athletes in Australia, appear at the front door. Let’s see them do that for real in Iten. Let’s see them appear with no warning at Berardelli’s camp and follow everyone around. For days or weeks …🤣
Many of these tests are from the AIU you can see in the stats. But if you want to go full-on conspiracy to cover up for Australias extremely low testing volume do you. The stats provided by both international test bodies and the national bodies tell a story. That is one of lots of testing and busts in Kenya, and barely any testing/busts in Australia. Interpret how you see fit.
Aw c’mon. Thoughtsleader was just doing a little virtue-signaling. Just like the AIU does to pretend Kenya isn’t as huge a problem as they really are.
The AIU correctly often brings up that doping is a problem in Kenya. They made them pay for extra testing and mandate every athlete at the Worlds has 3 OOC tests in the 10 months before. All factual.
Now in Australia more than a third of the team has no OOC tests into World and the nationwide rate is last in the world for a country fielding a full team. If anyone is virtue-signaling it’d probably be you for a “don’t ask don’t tell” national testing body.
He didn’t say that. You’re the one trying to imply Myers is a drug cheat in roundabout fashion. The testing bodies are all guilty of kid glove treatment of Africans. The Africans have had many laughs over the years at the gullibility of many Westerners and also at their fear of being called racist.
He didn’t say that. You’re the one trying to imply Myers is a drug cheat in roundabout fashion. The testing bodies are all guilty of kid glove treatment of Africans. The Africans have had many laughs over the years at the gullibility of many Westerners and also at their fear of being called racist.
I never implied anything of the sort. A guy said Myers was subject to more testing than Wanyonyi. The evidence suggests that is highly unlikely. If Australias poor testing record makes you emotional, I’m sorry.
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To solorun a sub-3:30 is super impressive. How many time in history have we seen that? The only ones that I'm aware of is:
Timothy Cheruiyot - Doha 2019 - 3:29.26
Jakob Ingebrigtsen - Paris 2024 - 3:28.24
Cameron Myers - Sydney 2026 - 3:29.85
Did El Guerrouj ever break 3:30.00 without pacers? He broke 3:30.00 29(!) times, and I think about half of those races are on YouTube.
Why are you including Jakob in this list, he lost. Plenty of other guys have run sub 3:30 and lost races. Only two have gone wire to wire and run sub 3:30.