Trump asks military to draw up Greenland invasion plans. This is nuts

Noyankee wrote:

The Imperative Voice Real13 wrote:

in 3 pages i haven't seen anyone articulate a reason other than "boss tasked me" that we need to do this. which begs the question. and we're talking war plans. that says it all.

occasionally half bright folks will mumble something about "security" but they aren't referring to some imminent threat, they're playing Risk at their dining room table. that you'd like to have Greenland for strategic purposes isn't a defensible justification for war unless we're just getting in the naked aggression business.

i mean, the "security" argument is roughly like russia wanting ukraine as a NATO cushion.

If you think Russia taking over Ukraine, now bordering NATO countries, and then reneging on a deal with the US President is not an imminent threat, then you are way behind understanding how the World works. No matter, MAGA has your back. Stay clueless

in the meantime, throw out your useless college degree and read the book. This is all you need to understand and appreciate what is going on. You’re in great hands now.

#theartofthedeal

Noyankee wrote:

The Imperative Voice Real13 wrote:

in 3 pages i haven't seen anyone articulate a reason other than "boss tasked me" that we need to do this. which begs the question. and we're talking war plans. that says it all.

occasionally half bright folks will mumble something about "security" but they aren't referring to some imminent threat, they're playing Risk at their dining room table. that you'd like to have Greenland for strategic purposes isn't a defensible justification for war unless we're just getting in the naked aggression business.

i mean, the "security" argument is roughly like russia wanting ukraine as a NATO cushion.

If you think Russia taking over Ukraine, now bordering NATO countries, and then reneging on a deal with the US President is not an imminent threat, then you are way behind understanding how the World works. No matter, MAGA has your back. Stay clueless

in the meantime, throw out your useless college degree and read the book. This is all you need to understand and appreciate what is going on. You’re in great hands now.

#theartofthedeal

One perspective from overseas wrote:

A take from a European on X who has been viewing interviews with the people of Greenland:

I keep struggling to explain one very simple thing to people pushing the “we need Greenland for strategic purposes” narrative.

People aren’t just angry, they’re scared.

And the knee-jerk reply I get is always the same: “So, you’re not scared of Russia?”
First of all - yes, obviously we are scared of Russia. Second - this is not remotely the same situation!

Here’s the part they’re refusing to understand:

There’s a difference between being attacked by a violent criminal (Russia), and being threatened by your father, cousin, brother, or long-term friend (the U.S.).

Both are frightening - but only one of them shatters your trust and sense of reality.

Nobody in Europe ever expected this kind of rhetoric from an allied country we’ve cooperated with, trusted, and aligned with for decades.

You expect aggression from enemies. You do not expect it from your friends.

So stop this rhetoric.

Because whether you realize it or not, you’re doing Russia’s and China’s work for them - undermining trust, sowing fear, and slowly dismantling the Atlantic alliance from the inside. Moscow and Beijing are saving on bullets right now, don’t help them

JackmanJones wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

If you think Russia taking over Ukraine, now bordering NATO countries, and then reneging on a deal with the US President is not an imminent threat, then you are way behind understanding how the World works. No matter, MAGA has your back. Stay clueless

in the meantime, throw out your useless college degree and read the book. This is all you need to understand and appreciate what is going on. You’re in great hands now.

#theartofthedeal

Russia certainly is aggressive and hostile. But does not mean the United States need to invade Greenland.

Back in the 1960s, the USA had over 10000 soldiers at Thule Air Base (now called Pituffik Space Base), with full Danish permission.

Because the US and Denmark have a decades-long alliance, Greenland can be and has been used as a staging area for US forces in the arctic without the US needing to conquer it.

One perspective from overseas wrote:

A take from a European on X who has been viewing interviews with the people of Greenland:

I keep struggling to explain one very simple thing to people pushing the “we need Greenland for strategic purposes” narrative.

People aren’t just angry, they’re scared.

And the knee-jerk reply I get is always the same: “So, you’re not scared of Russia?”
First of all - yes, obviously we are scared of Russia. Second - this is not remotely the same situation!

Here’s the part they’re refusing to understand:

There’s a difference between being attacked by a violent criminal (Russia), and being threatened by your father, cousin, brother, or long-term friend (the U.S.).

Both are frightening - but only one of them shatters your trust and sense of reality.

Nobody in Europe ever expected this kind of rhetoric from an allied country we’ve cooperated with, trusted, and aligned with for decades.

You expect aggression from enemies. You do not expect it from your friends.

So stop this rhetoric.

Because whether you realize it or not, you’re doing Russia’s and China’s work for them - undermining trust, sowing fear, and slowly dismantling the Atlantic alliance from the inside. Moscow and Beijing are saving on bullets right now, don’t help them

Sunsetter wrote:

you reap what you sow wrote:

Quite right - since Trump is going to take over every country in the world in 3 years (kind of like Around the world in 80 days), he needs to plan well. Good for him and Hegseth - they are our true American Heroes.

Trump will be dead or 25th for dementia before Memorial Day. As much as I dislike Vance, he’s a Wall Street guy and understands the fiscal absurdity of what Trump pushes plus, he doesn’t have a crush on Putin.

Case in point, his meeting with the oil industry executives. When he wasn’t getting up to stare out of the windows or reading aloud a private note from Rubio, he got schooled by real business leaders telling him that they wouldn’t invest in Venezuela due to costs and security reasons. No ROI in the foreseeable future plus they don’t wish to risk having their property nationalized a third time.