since i'm basically an atheist, i wonder how this particular religion determined their sabbath was to be on saturday? doesn't it state in the book of fairy tales that sunday is the sabbath day?
I’m just pointing out that we shouldn’t accommodate delusional freaks. It’s the only fair thing to do.
Oh wow. You seem nice. Well, in a world that lets men run in the women's race, this seems like small potatoes.
People that believe in a caring God (that will actually answer your prayers for example), are also likely to believe that the Bible is His way to communicate to us. In the Bible his behavior expectations for his followers are precisely written in the 10 commandments. This is what the first 3 sentences of the fourth commandment reads in Exodus 20:8 This quote is from the New lIving Translation. “Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. You have 6 days each week to do your ordinary work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the Lord your God. On that day no one in your household can do any work…” Worshiping on Sunday instead as a memorial to Christ rising from the dead comes from a tradition passed down by the early church. It helped to distinguish them from a Jewish service.
I think it is reasonable that when someone believes the Bible is divinely inspired they probably want to follow its instructions on how to behave. That doesn’t make them “freaks”. There are sensible reasons to reject the request to run a different day (inconveniencing volunteers for example) but they should be based on logistics and not religious intolerance. I’m going to assume they asked if there could be an accommodation and didn’t demand it.
Among the 23 million Seventh-day Adventists worldwide, what is considered “work” varies. Individuals typically decide for themselves if some activities falls into a “don’t do it on Sabbath" category.
Oh wow. You seem nice. Well, in a world that lets men run in the women's race, this seems like small potatoes.
People that believe in a caring God (that will actually answer your prayers for example), are also likely to believe that the Bible is His way to communicate to us. In the Bible his behavior expectations for his followers are precisely written in the 10 commandments. This is what the first 3 sentences of the fourth commandment reads in Exodus 20:8 This quote is from the New lIving Translation. “Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. You have 6 days each week to do your ordinary work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the Lord your God. On that day no one in your household can do any work…” Worshiping on Sunday instead as a memorial to Christ rising from the dead comes from a tradition passed down by the early church. It helped to distinguish them from a Jewish service.
I think it is reasonable that when someone believes the Bible is divinely inspired they probably want to follow its instructions on how to behave. That doesn’t make them “freaks”. There are sensible reasons to reject the request to run a different day (inconveniencing volunteers for example) but they should be based on logistics and not religious intolerance. I’m going to assume they asked if there could be an accommodation and didn’t demand it.
Among the 23 million Seventh-day Adventists worldwide, what is considered “work” varies. Individuals typically decide for themselves if some activities falls into a “don’t do it on Sabbath" category.
Thanks for adding clarity. It seems hs'ers might not have full agency in this regard though.
Our state has numerous private high schools and some have strict rules about the sabbath. Their league typically plays some sports on Saturdays but they schedule around that for the Seventh Day Adventists. A few years ago, the Adventist school advanced in the semi-finals of the state basketball tournament. The schedule had to be rearranged so their semi-final was early on Friday afternoon. That allowed them to avoid playing after sundown on Friday.
There are strong legal precedents that the 1st amendment to the Constitution requires accommodation of religious belief and practices. This country protects the rights of minorities even when doing so is inconvenient to the majority. As Voltaire said, "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
"reasonable accommodation" is the standard you're struggling with. shifting schedule where we have a mutual game but on a day you prefer, is reasonable and a "competition." we both show up same conditions and play, just a different day than usual.
there's a fair debate whether a separate "heat" of a finals race is reasonable or fair. others and i mentioned weather. conference meet in college one year everyone was tenths (sprints) or seconds (distance) slower than usual due to q frontal passage between prelims and finals.
that and particularly in XC it's run not just for time but also place and points. as someone wired as a sprinter, i was always trying to hunt someone down to gain places and reduce team points. you can't pass what you can't see.
ditto that state progression is usually x number individuals through and it messes up counting heads.
and someone can come back and say, run faster, but we both know past 200m it becomes a more complicated game of pacing and racing and chasing that multiple heats distorts.
last, there are college conferences that run their show based on limiting school days missed. to be fair, they often use sundays to help, which public schools tend to avoid. but at a point here it becomes do we run weekdays (and drag kids out of class), do we run at night.
last last, one way a lot of this gets avoided is you're in a church division and not with the public schools.
also, since i am witnessing a "creeping first amendment expansion," the document actually says no establishment of religion and no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
i don't think this affects either unless their religious concerns gets to dictate my life to me alongside them, which starts to sound like an establishment. otherwise, they are free to worship and free to follow their faith.
the workaround has school kids missing as many as 4 days of class. i used to enjoy the odd HS meet or game where i got part of a class weekday off, but that might happen 1-2 times a year. this would be every friday for a series of weeks. if you tried to restore racing integrity by having everyone run friday in section 5, then it's everyone missing classes.