Elise Cranny Joining M11!?

Fan Out West|| wrote:

Apples to apples wrote:

The comparison to GHB isn’t a good one here. GHB took several years off running and returned to competition in her late 20s early 30. I know she’s was biking but she wasn’t training running in the way she is now. Elise has been training hard, solely focused on running the last 15 years or so. No multi-year breaks. That being said, Elise has mentioned several times her frustration with the 5000 and 10000. She isn’t and likely never will be competitive on the global stage at those distances. She also said that she wants to focus on the 8/15 for this year. Although an unorthodox move, it makes complete sense with where she’s at. Find a middle distance focused group, arguably the best in the world. A completely different stimulus from what she’s experienced the last decade. She’s run 3:58. Maybe a focus on the event for a year can get her into 1:57/3:55 territory. We’ll see.

In retrospect, Jerry moving Elise up to the 10,000 back in 2021, then having her do all those 5000/10,000 doubles, was a mistake. And, the mistake continued last year under Cornfield.

Elise was a miler coming out of Niwot and a miler coming out of Stanford.

She's always mentioned the 1500/mile as her favorite distance, the 5000 as her best distance, the 10,000 as an event shes still "learning to love."

She had a few injuries at Stanford but high mileage training wasn't the cause.

Elise's RED-S issues -- about which she is a prominent spokeswoman -- appears to have begun when she took up 10,000 training.

Give Cranny credit for having the self-awareness to finally face the truth about what she is capable and not capable of doing -- and now doing something about it. Dramatically.

When was the last time a prominent US t&f athlete moved out-of-country to live and train? Salazar moving to Kenya for a few months back in 1980 to prepare for the Oly Trials is the only example which comes to mind.

One other aspect of this change worth noting.

Elise has always been a "homebody" of sorts who prioritizes her family. She always mentions family support, having them around, and how much she appreciates her parents and sisters attending her meets, especially USAs, WCs and Olympics.

Seemingly, Elise felt she needed close family ties to succeed. So much so, she moved back to her hometown in CO to live and train the past two years. Somewhat cruelly, it didn't work out as hoped.

So, again, give Cranny tons of credit for cold, clear self-introspection, realizing if she wants to get the best out of herself as a mid-d runner from now thru the LA Olympics, she needs to uproot her past and move to wherever the best women's mid-d racing team is located. At this point in time, that team is based in Manchester, UK. And now, so is Elise.

Logical -- but still, very gutsy -- career and lifestyle change.

Fan Out West|| wrote:

Apples to apples wrote:

The comparison to GHB isn’t a good one here. GHB took several years off running and returned to competition in her late 20s early 30. I know she’s was biking but she wasn’t training running in the way she is now. Elise has been training hard, solely focused on running the last 15 years or so. No multi-year breaks. That being said, Elise has mentioned several times her frustration with the 5000 and 10000. She isn’t and likely never will be competitive on the global stage at those distances. She also said that she wants to focus on the 8/15 for this year. Although an unorthodox move, it makes complete sense with where she’s at. Find a middle distance focused group, arguably the best in the world. A completely different stimulus from what she’s experienced the last decade. She’s run 3:58. Maybe a focus on the event for a year can get her into 1:57/3:55 territory. We’ll see.

In retrospect, Jerry moving Elise up to the 10,000 back in 2021, then having her do all those 5000/10,000 doubles, was a mistake. And, the mistake continued last year under Cornfield.

Elise was a miler coming out of Niwot and a miler coming out of Stanford.

She's always mentioned the 1500/mile as her favorite distance, the 5000 as her best distance, the 10,000 as an event shes still "learning to love."

She had a few injuries at Stanford but high mileage training wasn't the cause.

Elise's RED-S issues -- about which she is a prominent spokeswoman -- appears to have begun when she took up 10,000 training.

Give Cranny credit for having the self-awareness to finally face the truth about what she is capable and not capable of doing -- and now doing something about it. Dramatically.

When was the last time a prominent US t&f athlete moved out-of-country to live and train? Salazar moving to Kenya for a few months back in 1980 to prepare for the Oly Trials is the only example which comes to mind.

One other aspect of this change worth noting.

Elise has always been a "homebody" of sorts who prioritizes her family. She always mentions family support, having them around, and how much she appreciates her parents and sisters attending her meets, especially USAs, WCs and Olympics.

Seemingly, Elise felt she needed close family ties to succeed. So much so, she moved back to her hometown in CO to live and train the past two years. Somewhat cruelly, it didn't work out as hoped.

So, again, give Cranny tons of credit for cold, clear self-introspection, realizing if she wants to get the best out of herself as a mid-d runner from now thru the LA Olympics, she needs to uproot her past and move to wherever the best women's mid-d racing team is located. At this point in time, that team is based in Manchester, UK. And now, so is Elise.

Logical -- but still, very gutsy -- career and lifestyle change.