You are quite the idiot if you feel my post are all the same and they annoy you so much, than why in the world do you continually read and comment on them❓ Make that make sense, but you can't logically make sense of your racial hatred and lunacy. Stop clicking on my threads if they annoy you Einstein.
Maybe Jane will take down some WRs if it’s finally decided to get rid of all the dope enhanced distance records — 1500, mile, 3k, 5k, 10k, basically all of them. 😀
Not a 5k runner in high school, but Mary Decker was a talent never seen before and rarely seen since in high school and she became the greatest in America and in the world. 83 double world champ and 85 undefeated. Mary Decker ran international competitions while in high school, including competing in a U.S.-Soviet dual meet in Minsk in 1973 and a U.S.-USSR indoor meet in Moscow in 1974. At the age of 14, she won the 800m against the silver medalist from the 1972 Olympics in her first international competition. 1973: At 14, after her 9th-grade year, she was invited to join a U.S. international team and competed in Minsk, where she won the 800m against the Soviet silver medalist. She also broke the U.S. high school record for the mile that year. 1974: At 15, she competed in a U.S.-USSR indoor meet in Moscow, winning the 800m event. During this meet, she also set indoor world records in the 800m and 880 yards.
Not a 5k runner in high school, but Mary Decker was a talent never seen before and rarely seen since in high school and she became the greatest in America and in the world. 83 double world champ and 85 undefeated. Mary Decker ran international competitions while in high school, including competing in a U.S.-Soviet dual meet in Minsk in 1973 and a U.S.-USSR indoor meet in Moscow in 1974. At the age of 14, she won the 800m against the silver medalist from the 1972 Olympics in her first international competition. 1973: At 14, after her 9th-grade year, she was invited to join a U.S. international team and competed in Minsk, where she won the 800m against the Soviet silver medalist. She also broke the U.S. high school record for the mile that year. 1974: At 15, she competed in a U.S.-USSR indoor meet in Moscow, winning the 800m event. During this meet, she also set indoor world records in the 800m and 880 yards.
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Great point 👍 trackfangirl
I don't understand how posters are even contemplating her performances stalling out. Quincy broke the 400m HSR twice and is now one of the top 15 FASTEST EVER and the same with the 800m American WUNDERKID Cooper L. So it wouldn't surprise me if Jane ran 4:02, 8:33, and sub 14:45 this year as a freshman. She may not quite hit those times but I wouldn't be shocked if did 😳. Would you❓
She'll meet and fall in love with a 27 year old upperclassman this year and will decide to settle down and have 8 kids once he graduates. Also, her name is Jane Hedengren.
Probably not 8 of them, but any prediction of the success of a female LDS runner should account for the high probability that she will start a family early and miss some prime running years.
I don't understand how posters are even contemplating her performances stalling out.
Because it's very normal for a kid that develops earlier, to stall out earlier.
People here have shown the statistics, how many went from HS prodigy to world beater. Support system is one thing, where your body is in growing up is another. Yes there are a few that go from being great as a kid to being even greater as an adult, but for most of them who stand our early, their body is just a bit ahead giving them some edge over similar talents.
But didn't high school stars Galen Rupp, Mary Decker Slaney, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone, Mebrahtom Keflezighi, Athing Mu, Samuel Wanjiru, ALL go on to win medals at Worlds or Olympics. There's definitely several more American & International High School Stars than those I just listed...
You are correct. Jane was at the level of the best college runners in history while still in high school. She is in rare company. The problem with these knuckkeheads is that they refer to people like Tuohy and Cook or Maton and Slagowski as generational talents.
If we move down to steeple, 2 mile and 1 mile and equivalent, only Addy Wiley (indoor), Elise Cranny, Angelina Napoleon and again Cain from among 40-50 athletes have made US teams.
Amazingly, in the whole record list, only Tuohy has won an ncaa title. (Wiley won NAIA).
Assuming all healthy, someone could run 14:40 at 5000 and still not get a team spot behind Houlihan, Cranny, Schweizer, Kelati, Andrews, Monson, Purrier and Valby.
Your thoughts are bold, will be fun to follow.
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Hundreds of poster's thought I was off bas about Kenenisa Bekele 20 years ago. Jane Hedengen is a similar talent, if she can just stay healthy she will make U.S. teams especially in 2027 and 2028.
Hedengren is a ridiculous talent. Sensational. The only HSer in her category (IMO) was Mary Cain. Cain was a bit better at 800/1500. Jane better mile and up.
I think its obvious that, barring injury, she makes a number of teams. I think a bit of patience is in order, but clearly Hedengren has all the skills needed for greatness.
I honestly had no idea you are female? Well that might explain some of your emotional outbursts. Why do you accuse others of racism? I have never thought of race in relation to you and I also abhor racism. One can think someone is an emotional idiot without race being involved.
I honestly had no idea you are female? Well that might explain some of your emotional outbursts. Why do you accuse others of racism? I have never thought of race in relation to you and I also abhor racism. One can think someone is an emotional idiot without race being involved.
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Grow up child, act like a mature human being, and stop riding my coat tail.
I honestly had no idea you are female? Well that might explain some of your emotional outbursts. Why do you accuse others of racism? I have never thought of race in relation to you and I also abhor racism. One can think someone is an emotional idiot without race being involved.
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Grow up child, act like a mature human being, and stop riding my coat tail.
You are the one who referred to me as 450 lbs because I explained how you operate as a poster here. And now you are lecturing me on how to comport myself? Oh my…
All who made usa teams were the ones that were ready to make those teams. Some missed because they weren't ready when it counted most. Not everyone is developmentally ready at the same time or on a linear path to make a solid prediction very far out into the future.
There really is a lot of luck involved within our qualifying system limitations. We know what should happen but often it doesn't.
I wish her the best. I will cheer her on loudly. She certainly has great potential. But there is just as much if not more potential for not making it. We celebrate when they make it and feel bad when they don't.
Then it's who's next. Father time does not care or wait for us.
Ya, I was exaggerating slightly. She might not hold the steeple record.
We can revisit the 800 record talk when she takes 5 seconds off her 1500, setting the ncaa record at that distance next year.
No I didn't discover Jane HEDENGEN but after hearing one of the BroJo say "she may not improve, let's not assume she going to be a world beater". If she stays healthy, I do think Jane in:
2026 will run low 14:40 and sub 30:30, she will set 3000, 5000, and 10000m CR or force someone to shatter them to beat her...
2027 be the first American to run sub 30 minute track 10,000m if NOONE does it in 2026.
2028 be competing for a lower medal in the Olympic 10,000m
I think if she's healthy (which I think she will be) that she will have an amazing THREE upcoming years.
You think Noone will break 30 in 2026? Last I heard, Noone was trying to unseat Bolt as the fastest person alive. Pretty good range!
How about you stay in your lane and out of what I choose to discuss❓🤔
Of the all time top 10 high school 5000 meter runners, just 2 have ever gone on to make a USA track team. Mary Cain at 1500m and Emily Sisson in the marathon. Neither was a medal threat. The other 8 have dealt with long term injuries that have limited their ncaa and pro development.
Many are excited about Jane Hedengren, but are just cautious in predicting her college and pro results.
Idk the top 10 off the top of my head but aren’t like at least five of them too young for a team to be the standard? Hedengren, Blade, Cook, Leachman, Shea?
I am currently being ridiculed on this thread and will be some more before it comes to past. If Jane Hedengren stays healthy in the next few years hold multiple CR and AR. Just let her keep putting in the mileage and stay healthy, her talent will allow her to continually develop her endurance to the level of the top Africans.
To challenge the top Africans, it will take more than developing endurance and you can’t coach leg speed. Hedengren will never have the leg speed necessary to run 3:50 for the 1500m, like Chebet and Kipyegon can.
I am currently being ridiculed on this thread and will be some more before it comes to past. If Jane Hedengren stays healthy in the next few years hold multiple CR and AR. Just let her keep putting in the mileage and stay healthy, her talent will allow her to continually develop her endurance to the level of the top Africans.
To challenge the top Africans, it will take more than developing endurance and you can’t coach leg speed. Hedengren will never have the leg speed necessary to run 3:50 for the 1500m, like Chebet and Kipyegon can.
When Galen Rupp was a college freshman would you say he didn't have the speed necessary to run a 3:50 mile?
I would have said that. We don't know enough about most runners we comment on, negative or positive.