Camille Herron suing Canadian Runner magazine

I’m guessing maybe you do too from the compulsiveness of this post. Seek help and stop trying to cancel someone for breaking the terms of Wikipedia? Should we cancel you for breaking the terms of this website?

The whole thing is extremely silly.

Herron's alleged Wikipedia name was "Rundbowie." About 50+ edits in 2024, zero edits since September 11 last year, which is roughly when the scandal broke. It looks like every edit was Ultramarathon related.

Is Mr Herron a mod here? WTF with all the deleted posts???

If you want to get really literal, then there's no problem whatsoever because defamation torts are matters of state law, and the First Amendment simply says that "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."

But even after incorporation of the First Amendment against the states, however, the case for defamation torts being unconstitutional is very weak. The Madisonian critique of the Sedition Act didn't suggest that common law defamation was unconstitutional--it emphasized that (1) Congress had not been delegated the authority to regulate speech at all, and (2) the Sedition Act, by specifically punishing speech critical of the government was uniquely undemocratic (this is the seed of the line that the Supreme Court later drew in NY Times v. Sullivan). Defamation was extremely familiar to the Framers, and there was no suggestion, either before or after ratification of the Bill of Rights, that "freedom of speech" encompassed the freedom to make defamatory statements. Crucially, truth is always a defense to defamation, and when one is speaking on matters of public concern, the protection is even broader--there can be no liability unless the speaker knew the statement was false or he made a false statement with reckless disregard for whether it was true.

I’m sure mod will delete this but no risk of defamation here because I stand by this informed opinion: she is BY FAR the most obnoxious runner I have ever met in person. In my 30 years of running there is nobody who even comes close, and I have been in close quarters with her multiple times for multiple days. I didn’t know it was possible to be so self centered and so unaware of people around you until I met her.

Especially ultrarunners are usually very humble and easy going. She is something.

There definitely seems to be a narcissism pandemic in general since social media rewards vanity. And yes I completely agree, definitely more narcissists amongst the running crowd than the general population, one of the reasons I always liked cross-country because it included team oriented goals as well as individual goals

She is going to be a very rich something after she wins upper seven figures for this defamation lawsuit.

I thought the pic was a guy also, like maybe Evan Jager’s much older brother. But that is a woman they say.

Conor used to run with our Norman group on Sundays back when he was at OU. He was a good dude back then. This was pre Camille.... although Camille was growing up in Norman around that time. I heard Conor was back coaching at some small school in Nebraska now.

peru.edu

Conor Holt

@perustate

Staff Profile of Conor Holt, at Peru State College working in Athletics

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What a story:

"I am excited to be on a college campus after nine years away working in
the private sector," said Coach Holt. "I see great opportunities here
at Peru State College and am looking forward to building a program where
winning and success will go hand in hand. I thank the athletic and
academic administration for this opportunity."

Most recently, Holt managed a successful international online coaching
business. He coached elite athletes to world titles, world records, and
national championships, while partnering with performance brands such
as Nike, Hoka, Craft, and Lululemon. He was also instrumental in
securing more than $3 million in sponsorship deals for his athletes and
assisted these companies in developing performance footwear and apparel.

pscbobcats.com

Conor Holt Named Head Cross Country and Distance Track Coach - Peru State College Athletics

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Peru, Neb.- Peru State College Athletics is proud to announce the hiring of Conor Holt as the new head coach for the Bobcats' cross-country program and the College's

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I was born with 90% hearing loss in my right ear. Spent a lot of time playing drums in garage bands and around firearms, so currently my hearing is pretty bad. Hearing loss isn't an excuse to act like a jerk, or to blame other people for everything you don't like. She's just crazy.

Camille says something about how she is a tall poppy and so she stands out, she is special and so we are all jealous of her.

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