Niels MF Laros. Steals it from Nuguse. Bowerman mile win 3:45.94!!!

Matt12345 wrote:

I watched this in person. Maybe just the people near me but Laros basically got booed when he won. Everyone wanted Nuguse to win so bad.

rojo wrote:

Now, was it possible he got the WR at 1200? Technically, yes. If you take Nuguse's 1st 1200 and then Laros' last 409, you'd barely break the WR. You'd run like 3:42.9.

stupid goose wrote:

jeff tallon wrote:

He's for real,but so is everyone else in that race. If jakob comes back,and neils beats him,jakob will say he's just "the next guy". Anyone could win the world championship 1500. I dont see neils breaking world records because he's up and down with injuries. Could he win an olympic gold? absolutely. But so could a dozen other guys at that level.

Laros, Myers, Koech these are for real with top quality because they have the age to back them up. Hocker and goose doesn’t have any age to back them up. They are 26 for Christ’s sake. How do you become a WR holder at 26 for the mile?

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Great run. I think Ritz/Nuguse made a slight tactical mistake in chasing the WR as opposed to a 3:44 type time (with a kick). The best shot for the WR will be chasing Jakob. The crazy fast early 1,000 and Yared not gathering there and dropping a sub-14s up front was the only way I could see him losing to Laros. As amazing as Niels is he is not yet comfortable going with the a sub 1:53 halfway pace in a mile. So the gap was going to be there, Yared just needed some gas at the end. It’s all good, though and the main headline of the race to me is Yared is crazy fit, Laris has arrived, Reynold has a mental block, and Hocker/Kessler/Wightman are a bit underwhelming at this point for what we expect.

rojo wrote:

NO NO NO.

I was super impressed by Nuguse going for it but please let's be honest. He didn't have a 3:44 in him "with more even pacing and a less aggressive first half." The proper phrase would be this - "Nuguse might have had a 3:44 in him if he'd been able to suck off of Jakob the whole race."

At 800, Yared was 1:51.4 - that's is 3:44 flat pace. So he went out on 3:44 flat pace and blew up.

He most certainly wasn't sniffing at world record at 1400. At 1200 meters, he was on 3:45.7 pace and he faded off that.

Now, was it possible he got the WR at 1200? Technically, yes. If you take Nuguse's 1st 1200 and then Laros' last 409, you'd barely break the WR. You'd run like 3:42.9.

Reddy! wrote:

Yeah people saying Laros would have run faster had he gone with the front guys earlier don't understand that's not how it works. He might not have had the strength to last had he gone earlier. Laros is quick and used his conserved energy to sprinted for the win.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Reddy! wrote:

Yeah people saying Laros would have run faster had he gone with the front guys earlier don't understand that's not how it works. He might not have had the strength to last had he gone earlier. Laros is quick and used his conserved energy to sprinted for the win.

100%. Laros was trying to win the second pack and then he was feeling so good and had so much speed left to burn he won the damn thing as Nuguse struggled home. Reynold ran the last 100 in 12.6 but there’s no argument for him beating Habz let’s say. For Laros, he basically went nuts the last 500, and if he leads the chase pack before 1,000 who knows if he has the same level of energy to close as crazily as he did.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Great run. I think Ritz/Nuguse made a slight tactical mistake in chasing the WR as opposed to a 3:44 type time (with a kick). The best shot for the WR will be chasing Jakob. The crazy fast early 1,000 and Yared not gathering there and dropping a sub-14s up front was the only way I could see him losing to Laros. As amazing as Niels is he is not yet comfortable going with the a sub 1:53 halfway pace in a mile. So the gap was going to be there, Yared just needed some gas at the end. It’s all good, though and the main headline of the race to me is Yared is crazy fit, Laris has arrived, Reynold has a mental block, and Hocker/Kessler/Wightman are a bit underwhelming at this point for what we expect.

shirtboy2022 wrote:

so a second pace maker?

that’s what youre saying. Nuguse needs a pacer though 1400m

shirtboy2022 wrote:

Watch the 5000 Euros

dude has strength so dont know wtf you’re talking about

what he lacks is the early commit

hell get there, but watch these races, never jumps on early

when he does this will be child’s play

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

shirtboy2022 wrote:

so a second pace maker?

that’s what youre saying. Nuguse needs a pacer though 1400m

To set a world record? Probably yes. He is plenty good enough to do what Habz did in Paris and run 3:27/3:44 without Jakob to lead. That next second he might need a pacer.