3:26.00 has been the WR for 27 years and you believe someone is going to break it by 2 seconds? It will never happen.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
So Kratochvilova's, Koch's and Flojo's records aren't good?
No, people keep saying this because he has run 7:17 for 3000m. When he ran his 12:48 5000m PB, his 3000m PB was 7:27. You think he chopped 10 seconds off of his 3000m PB but can't chop 13 seconds off his 5000m PB to break the WR? I'm with you that 12:30 is a stretch, but there's no way that a peak fitness Jakob can't run well under 12:40.
The 5k is nearly twice as far as 3k. It is outside his sweet spot. If you think he would run a longer distance in a time equivalent to his 3k time then you must be prepared to argue he could go sub-26 for 10k - unless you concede he won't be as good over longer distances. He won't excel over all distances as he does over 3k. Getting below 12:40 is not a given, let alone 12:35.
The event that he is the 3x defending global champion in is "outside his sweet spot". Astute observation.
The 5k is nearly twice as far as 3k. It is outside his sweet spot. If you think he would run a longer distance in a time equivalent to his 3k time then you must be prepared to argue he could go sub-26 for 10k - unless you concede he won't be as good over longer distances. He won't excel over all distances as he does over 3k. Getting below 12:40 is not a given, let alone 12:35.
The event that he is the 3x defending global champion in is "outside his sweet spot". Astute observation.
Yet he has only once run under 13 minutes. Since posters have used his times in shorter events as an indication of his abilities the same measure can be applied to longer events.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
So Kratochvilova's, Koch's and Flojo's records aren't good?
All WRs are obviously good. I don't think Kratochvilova's record is nearly as strong as Flojo's. They're not good because they're old though.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
So Kratochvilova's, Koch's and Flojo's records aren't good?
t&f and marathon/road athletes not having to rely on shoe companies as their primary source of income (outside sponsorship). and NDA's.
Who else needs a t&f athlete to be associated with their brand badly enough to pay them enough to live on. Some athletes could probably be models but other than the competitive shoe manufacturers why do you need an athlete associated with your product. It would be cool if prize purses were big enough that more than a few athletes could live on winnings, but until you can walk into your average sports bar and see the pre classic on, that just won't happen.
Sub 12:30 5000m is one that stands out to me and doesn't seem way out of the realm of possibility knowing 7:17 has happened. Sticking with distance only sub 26 10000m would be amazing and on par with a woman running sub 2:10 in the marathon IMO.
Who else needs a t&f athlete to be associated with their brand badly enough to pay them enough to live on. Some athletes could probably be models but other than the competitive shoe manufacturers why do you need an athlete associated with your product. It would be cool if prize purses were big enough that more than a few athletes could live on winnings, but until you can walk into your average sports bar and see the pre classic on, that just won't happen.
All the Japanese companies that sponsor ekiden teams?
Caitlin Clark is sponsored by Nike, Gatorade and Wilson. But she is also sponsored by State Farm, Xfinity, Gainbridge, Hy-Vee and Lilly. What do they have anything to do with basketball?
So Kratochvilova's, Koch's and Flojo's records aren't good?
You don't know the word necessarily.
The records you mentioned will all be broken soon
But unlike all the other listed wrs no one's been able to beat them in decades. You have a peculiar notion of what constitutes a "good" wr. That they are virtually unbreakable doesn't seem to count.
But unlike all the other listed wrs no one's been able to beat them in decades. You have a peculiar notion of what constitutes a "good" wr. That they are virtually unbreakable doesn't seem to count.
You really don't know the word necessarily.
I haven't said anything about a "good" WR.
The 4 mentioned WRs were extremely strong. But they will be broken within 2 or 3 years.
But unlike all the other listed wrs no one's been able to beat them in decades. You have a peculiar notion of what constitutes a "good" wr. That they are virtually unbreakable doesn't seem to count.
You really don't know the word necessarily.
I haven't said anything about a "good" WR.
The 4 mentioned WRs were extremely strong. But they will be broken within 2 or 3 years.
You don't know the meaning of the word "necessarily" either. In this context it is irrelevant. The records are good or they aren't. That they have not been broken in decades shows how tough they are.
Records define the best that, up to that point, has ever been achieved in an event. The best that anyone has ever achieved in the women's flat track events up to the 800 was achieved between 1983 to 1988. No other record - male or female - can yet match that. Records in championship events that endure are - by definition - better than those that don't, or that have yet to last as long.
It is irrelevant whether you think the aforementioned records will one day be broken. They haven't - and it's a guess that could apply to any record. So what.
The women's 100 400 and 800 have been seen as untouchable for a long time
Big mental hurdles there imo
The 200m WR is as strong as the 400m WR. The 100m WR was wind aided, the Real WR is 10.54.
All 4 will go down in the next years.
You don't know that. They've lasted nearly forty years. They may be out of reach - unless athletes dope without restriction. The same applies to El G's extant records. After a quarter of a century, only full-bore doping (assuming athletes aren't already doing that) might put them in reach.