That’s just not true - NBNO is a sanctioned USATF meet, and times from there are acceptable qualifiers. Although Dumas hasn’t entered yet, NBNO 400/400H runner-up Sydney Sutton has entered with her NBNO marks.
Yes, the New Balance meet was sanctioned by both USATF and World Athletics. Not sure where that other poster got the idea that it wasn't.
In any case, Dumas said she that won't be running USAs. She said her last meet would be this weekend where she will run either a 400 or a 400H. I think it's a good decision to not prolong her season another month. That way she can take a break and then get ready for xc.
400mH/800m runners, especially of this caliber, do not “get ready for cross-country” (unless there is something very unusual with their high school team, like having a chance to win a national title).
Cross-country for this caliber of long-sprint athlete is just a side-show to develop fitness, used in prep for their following indoor/outdoor seasons.
There is an 18yr-old gal out in California, Morgan Herbst, that ran a 55.89 the same weekend, at the U20 NON. A matchup between Herbst and Dumas, along with Sutton, would be interesting.
Cross-country for this caliber of long-sprint athlete is just a side-show to develop fitness, used in prep for their following indoor/outdoor seasons.
One of this athlete’s gifts is her fierce competitiveness when in a race. Cross-country racing might even be counterproductive for this type of long-sprint thoroughbred; why risk screwing up a foot/ankle stepping into a hole on a cross-country course, unless she really loves that sport?
Yes, the New Balance meet was sanctioned by both USATF and World Athletics. Not sure where that other poster got the idea that it wasn't.
In any case, Dumas said she that won't be running USAs. She said her last meet would be this weekend where she will run either a 400 or a 400H. I think it's a good decision to not prolong her season another month. That way she can take a break and then get ready for xc.
400mH/800m runners, especially of this caliber, do not “get ready for cross-country” (unless there is something very unusual with their high school team, like having a chance to win a national title).
Cross-country for this caliber of long-sprint athlete is just a side-show to develop fitness, used in prep for their following indoor/outdoor seasons.
There is an 18yr-old gal out in California, Morgan Herbst, that ran a 55.89 the same weekend, at the U20 NON. A matchup between Herbst and Dumas, along with Sutton, would be interesting.
Edit: Herst actually ran a 55.78 over the weekend, while possessing ‘only’ a 55.54 flat 400m PR set in March.
I didn't realize Sydney Sutton barely lost to Dumas at 400 flat also.
Two races nearly a dead heat yet 98% of the attention going to only one of them.
Sounds reasonable, especially when the runner up is considerably more imposing physically
Her smaller stature contributes to what makes Dumas look amazing going over that first hurdle; with no stutter step, the timing and placement is near perfect as her lead leg rapidly kicks out before quickly going over the hurdle in-stride.
400mH/800m runners, especially of this caliber, do not “get ready for cross-country” (unless there is something very unusual with their high school team, like having a chance to win a national title).
Cross-country for this caliber of long-sprint athlete is just a side-show to develop fitness, used in prep for their following indoor/outdoor seasons.
There is an 18yr-old gal out in California, Morgan Herbst, that ran a 55.89 the same weekend, at the U20 NON. A matchup between Herbst and Dumas, along with Sutton, would be interesting.
Edit: Herst actually ran a 55.78 over the weekend, while possessing ‘only’ a 55.54 flat 400m PR set in March.
Actually, Morgan Herbst ran a 55.89 prelim on Thursday, then ran the #5 all time 55.78 (soloing) in the final on Friday. Her twin sister, Makeena, won the U20 800m in a time of 2:02.48 (soling).
Edit: Herst actually ran a 55.78 over the weekend, while possessing ‘only’ a 55.54 flat 400m PR set in March.
A better demonstration of my claim that fans shouldn't pay too much attention to PRs for events that HS athletes run, unless we know that the athlete was fresh (instead of tripling, or whatever) and that the athlete was pushed in the race, could not be found. Obviously, Herbst is not a 55.5 400m runner, despite what her PR would seem to indicate.
Yes, the New Balance meet was sanctioned by both USATF and World Athletics. Not sure where that other poster got the idea that it wasn't.
In any case, Dumas said she that won't be running USAs. She said her last meet would be this weekend where she will run either a 400 or a 400H. I think it's a good decision to not prolong her season another month. That way she can take a break and then get ready for xc.
400mH/800m runners, especially of this caliber, do not “get ready for cross-country” (unless there is something very unusual with their high school team, like having a chance to win a national title).
You went in a very weird direction with what I posted. I was simply saying that since she will be running with her xc team starting in August, it would be a good idea to wrap up her track season sooner rather than later, so that she can get some time off in July before she starts running again in August.
My point was that she could use a break, not that she was going to be a superstar xc runner. I'm not sure why that was so hard for you to understand.
Edit: Herst actually ran a 55.78 over the weekend, while possessing ‘only’ a 55.54 flat 400m PR set in March.
A better demonstration of my claim that fans shouldn't pay too much attention to PRs for events that HS athletes run, unless we know that the athlete was fresh (instead of tripling, or whatever) and that the athlete was pushed in the race, could not be found. Obviously, Herbst is not a 55.5 400m runner, despite what her PR would seem to indicate.
Morgan Herbst's PR in the 400 is actually the 55.11 she ran indoors in January. She then got injured in February and missed some practice time, which is why she ran slower in March.
Since March she didn't run any 400s, but she did run many 4x400s, with the fastest being a 52.54 at the CA State Championship the end of May, which was the fastest split of the meet.
So her 55.78 400H at U20 wasn't unexpected given her 52.54 relay split 3 weeks before. Herbst said before U20 that she was in good enough shape to break 56, and she was right.
In the interview she did not rule out running in US Championships
Natalie Dumas specifically said that she was only going to run one more meet and that meet was going to be this weekend. The USA Championships doesn't start until July 31.
In the interview she did not rule out running in US Championships
Natalie Dumas specifically said that she was only going to run one more meet and that meet was going to be this weekend. The USA Championships doesn't start until July 31.
at the tail end of the interview she was asked "I can assume your season is over with. No thoughts on potentially going to USA's?" To which she answered "You might see me out there. Maybe. There's a chance. I don't have a plan right now. ... And then you might see me there [USA's]."
Cross-country for this caliber of long-sprint athlete is just a side-show to develop fitness, used in prep for their following indoor/outdoor seasons.
One of this athlete’s gifts is her fierce competitiveness when in a race. Cross-country racing might even be counterproductive for this type of long-sprint thoroughbred; why risk screwing up a foot/ankle stepping into a hole on a cross-country course, unless she really loves that sport?
This type of athlete is ultra competitive by nature. If she weren't running XC she would probably be playing soccer or some other sport in the fall. Her chances of getting inured in soccer would be far greater than XC.
I didn't realize Sydney Sutton barely lost to Dumas at 400 flat also.
Two races nearly a dead heat yet 98% of the attention going to only one of them.
Sounds reasonable, especially when the runner up is considerably more imposing physically
One girl won THREE individual races. The other girl won ZERO individual races. THAT is the reason why more attention has been paid to Natalie Dumas. It has nothing to do with who is "more imposing physically." So stop with that nonsense.
Natalie Dumas did another interview where she specifically said that her season would be ending this weekend.
I know. But she said something different in this interview.
Specifically, in the interview immediately after the 800 she referred to the meet this week. The interview I just posted was clearly done later than that as she appears to be in her home. So she may be rethinking her previous reply on USA's
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