We merged two threads on the same topic and kept the one started by Rojo as Rojo's was started first and its his website. The 2nd thread was titled, "Random Swede runs 12:44 to smack the Africans and set new European record!?"
Almgren has obviously been a mega talent since his mid teens:
100m 11.65, 200m 22.68 and 400m 48.33 all at age 16.
It is laughable when some of the (American?) posters don´t know, especially after his achievements the last 3 seasons.
Fills us in. What medals has he won in the world championships or Olympics? Heck what about euros? What makes him stand up from a couple dozen other runners?
if you aren’t local to him, he really hasn’t done anything. It would be like complaining that a Swedish track fan didn’t know who German Fernandez was.
That being said, why he isn’t a 3:28 guy has to be a fascinating story of the intersection of physiology, training and race distance.
It is nice though that the randoms from around the world are turning into potential medal guys and you just don’t need to look at the 10 guys from Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda and expats….
Can´t you see how arrogant you are?
From your reasoning no one should know Nico, Blanks, Houser, Klecker, Woody, Nur, McGorty, Teare and before OG Paris Fisher, Nuguse and Hocker because none of them have/had an international medal.
After Oslo everyone was excited (me included) over the non medalist Nico Young´s performance but a Swedish guy who solo ran faster under worse conditions is of course a nobody.
I'm Swedish and I can understand if Almgren has flown under a lot of peoples radar up until like 2023 or so, because he has basically always been injured right in time for the major championships until he started training with the Ingebrigtsens and adopted the Norwegian method.
But in the last 2 seasons he ran sub 27 at the Ten, won Valencia 10k where he set the European record, should've won Barcelona HM as well where he finished second behind Kandie who has been banned for doping, and Almgren clocked the second fastest European HM all time in that race, placed fifth in Euro XC, placed fourth in the European indoors 3000. Anyone who follows European track and field has little excuses to not have heard of him.
He has also gotten screwed over by dopers more times, at the 2023 Worlds he finished 9th in the heats where both Katir and Oumaiz who are busted for doping finished ahead of him.
My god that was impressive. Final 2+ k all by himself leading it all. Not nearly as good conditions as Oslo as it was warmer and windier.
Hocker got dropped about 5 minutes in.
Rank Pos Nat Name Time 1 13 SWE ALMGREN Andreas 12:44.27 Official AR MR 2 12 ETH GIRMA Kuma 12:57.46 Official 3 11 AUS ROBINSON Ky 12:58.38 Official PB 4 1 NED FOPPEN Mike 13:02.43 Official NR 5 7 UGA KIPROP Kenneth 13:02.69 Official 6 10 KEN KIPKOECH Denis 13:07.02 Official 7 14 USA HOCKER Cole 13:09.36 Official 8 4 USA BEADLESCOMB Morgan 13:13.37 Official 9 5 MEX HERRERA Eduardo 13:17.08 Official 10 8 ERI TESFAGIORGIS Saymon 13:23.78 Official 11 9 KEN ALAMISI Andrew Kiptoo 13:29.07 Official 12 6 SWE DANIELSSON Emil 13:32.03 Official 13 2 ETH MELAK Biniyam 13:32.79 Official 14 3 KEN KEMBOI Cornelius 13:49.29 Official
SPlits 1000 POL CZERWINSKI Adam 2:33.17 2000 CZE SASINEK Filip 5:07.43 3000 SWE ALMGREN Andreas 7:42.93 4000 SWE ALMGREN Andreas 10:16.16
he's hardly random. he already has a European Record (10k road). fast time trialist with decent range (1:45 800, 59:23 HM) but he's just not good at tactical/championship races so most ppl don't know about him.
Decent range?!!?!! With 1:45 800-12:44 5000-59:23 half, he’s in a category of his own. Kejelcha probably could have run a 1:45 once upon a time but I don’t think he ever did.
Fills us in. What medals has he won in the world championships or Olympics? Heck what about euros? What makes him stand up from a couple dozen other runners?
if you aren’t local to him, he really hasn’t done anything. It would be like complaining that a Swedish track fan didn’t know who German Fernandez was.
That being said, why he isn’t a 3:28 guy has to be a fascinating story of the intersection of physiology, training and race distance.
It is nice though that the randoms from around the world are turning into potential medal guys and you just don’t need to look at the 10 guys from Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda and expats….
Can´t you see how arrogant you are?
From your reasoning no one should know Nico, Blanks, Houser, Klecker, Woody, Nur, McGorty, Teare and before OG Paris Fisher, Nuguse and Hocker because none of them have/had an international medal.
After Oslo everyone was excited (me included) over the non medalist Nico Young´s performance but a Swedish guy who solo ran faster under worse conditions is of course a nobody.
Finally: I am European but not Swedish.
So basically nothing. And no I don’t expect many Euros to know about Nico (despite actually running in the Olympics) till last week. If green wins a DL, I expect them to talk about a random American cause who focuses on regional track events when you aren’t in them. Same thing if Touhy shows up and runs a 14:30. To an American she would be the local prodigy making good. For everyone else? Just another random runner.
he's hardly random. he already has a European Record (10k road). fast time trialist with decent range (1:45 800, 59:23 HM) but he's just not good at tactical/championship races so most ppl don't know about him.
Decent range?!!?!! With 1:45 800-12:44 5000-59:23 half, he’s in a category of his own. Kejelcha probably could have run a 1:45 once upon a time but I don’t think he ever did.
The closest one I can think of is Augustine Choge and Mo Farah. Mo "only" ran 1:48, but I think in his 2012-17 form he could've run 1:45-6. I'm curious what Andreas can do in a 1500, 3:28-29 in the cards? (with specific training)
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From your reasoning no one should know Nico, Blanks, Houser, Klecker, Woody, Nur, McGorty, Teare and before OG Paris Fisher, Nuguse and Hocker because none of them have/had an international medal.
After Oslo everyone was excited (me included) over the non medalist Nico Young´s performance but a Swedish guy who solo ran faster under worse conditions is of course a nobody.
Finally: I am European but not Swedish.
So basically nothing. And no I don’t expect many Euros to know about Nico (despite actually running in the Olympics) till last week. If green wins a DL, I expect them to talk about a random American cause who focuses on regional track events when you aren’t in them. Same thing if Touhy shows up and runs a 14:30. To an American she would be the local prodigy making good. For everyone else? Just another random runner.
Dude, you don’t follow international track closely, it’s fine. Still would think you might have noticed him in certain results…
I don't think Almgren is going to clock sub 3:30, he's already 30 and is putting all his focus on long distance. And he hasn't ran an 800 race since 2019.
He needs to make up for lost time from all the championships he's missed due to injury
