Bol has freckles full face. That’s indication shows she took A LOT medicines PEDs etc. And that’s the reason why why she dare not come to US to compete. It will expose her lol.
Actually when she came to the US she set an indoor WR. Look it up. Freckles? Ridiculous. If we want to talk about signs of drug use, Syd’s pancake makeup at meets is bizarre. Like she’s trying to hide … something…but she can’t hide the man-jaw which grows more severe over time.
Graph that, and explain why you think she will suddenly lop off a full second in one year. 🤡
Come on. Her OPEN 400 PB is closer to 50.00 than her 400 hurdles PB! (49.19 vs 50.95.)
Her 49.19 is indoors, which is the fastest anyone has ever run the 400m indoors. She's split in the 47s in the relay, outdoors with a flying start multiple times. Its unclear what her outdoor 400 open PB would be if she took it seriously, but surely it would start with 48, and I think Sydney's open 400m PB would start with 47 if she trained for it and ran it in peak form, eventhough she's only ran 48.74 outdoors compared to Femke's 49.19 indoors.
This is a sound take by MatthewXC, but given that neither Sydney nor Femke are likely to run the 400 at a World/Olympic final where the fastest times often occur, I'd prefer to bet on Rhasidat Adeleke as being the first "modern era" athlete under 48. Her upside is huge, given her age and 60m PB of 7.17.
lol why Bol fans always like to compare indoors to outdoors? For track, they are totally different. i should remind you that Bol NEVER runs Outdoor 400m under 49s while Syd runs 48.75. And her split speed at Paris 47.71 is the 3rd FASTEST all time history for women’s 4*4 relay. She’s a FAR better 400m runner than Bol. Don’t be delusional.
I said SML is better than Bol at 400m, so not sure what we are disagreeing with. Yes Bol is 47.9 on the splits of 4x400 and SML is 47.7. I agree with you that that SML is a better 400 runner. I just don't think either of them is a 49 runner in ideal conditions. I think both of them in good conditions are well under 49, with SML even being in the high 47s in an open 400 in good conditions. I don't think we disagree with anything. Basically all I was saying is that Bol really hasn't ran more than a couple 400m races out doors and her multiple 49.1X indoor runs are indicative that shed be at worst a 48 high runner outdoors. SML also hasn't run many outdoor 400m races and I think she's probably 47 high to 48 low, well better than Bol.
Last year Bol ran just one open 400m outdoors, in less than ideal conditions at the FBK Games. In 2023 she ran just two open 400s outdoors, at the FBK Games again and then at the European Team Champs in Chorzow. In 2022 she ran three open 400s, post Eugene; at the DL meet in Chorzow and the two at the European Championships.
She simply hasn't bene running enough 400s outdoors to run what she could. However, she did say in her Rabat interview that she would run a few more 400s this season, due to missing the indoors. So let's hope she runs one when near peak form and in the conditions suitable for a good time.
Note she has consistently beaten Natalia Buckowiecka, Olympic bronze medalist & sub 49 runner, in both open 400s and relay legs, more evidence she should be sub 49 too.
Yep Femke is the second-best all time in the history of the entire event. And she is closer to Sydney (0.58 secs) than the third best all time is to her (0.63 secs).
1. 50.37 Sydney MCLAUGHLIN-LEVRONE 2. 50.95 Femke BOL 3. 51.58 Dalilah MUHAMMAD 4. 51.87 Anna COCKRELL 5. 52.29 Jasmine JONES
And yet she's never run sub-52 in an Olympic final. Also, her 50.95 time is altitude-aided
True that her 50.95 was run at 992m altitude (about half the height of flagstaff) . The altitude converter says a 12.74 100m is worth 12.78 at 992m altitude. Extrapolating Bol's 50.95 is worth a 51.11. https://jmureika.lmu.build/track/wind/index.html. The benefit of altitude in the 100m is likely higher than the 400m hurdles, which has some small endurance component, but I'd suspect this converter is pretty close.
LR simps for her so much. She’s okay, girl next door.
Amazing runner. Second best’ish in the world lapper hurdler.
Yep Femke is the second-best all time in the history of the entire event. And she is closer to Sydney (0.58 secs) than the third best all time is to her (0.63 secs).
1. 50.37 Sydney MCLAUGHLIN-LEVRONE 2. 50.95 Femke BOL *** Ran at altitude*** 3. 51.58 Dalilah MUHAMMAD 4. 51.87 Anna COCKRELL 5. 52.29 Jasmine JONES 6. 52.34 Yulia PECHONKINA 7. 52.39 Shamier LITTLE 8. 52.42 Melaine WALKER 9. 52.47 Lashinda DEMUS 10. 52.51 Rushell CLAYTON
Her 49.19 is indoors, which is the fastest anyone has ever run the 400m indoors. She's split in the 47s in the relay, outdoors with a flying start multiple times. Its unclear what her outdoor 400 open PB would be if she took it seriously, but surely it would start with 48, and I think Sydney's open 400m PB would start with 47 if she trained for it and ran it in peak form, eventhough she's only ran 48.74 outdoors compared to Femke's 49.19 indoors.
This is a sound take by MatthewXC, but given that neither Sydney nor Femke are likely to run the 400 at a World/Olympic final where the fastest times often occur, I'd prefer to bet on Rhasidat Adeleke as being the first "modern era" athlete under 48. Her upside is huge, given her age and 60m PB of 7.17.
Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Armand Duplantis have won the World Athlete of the Year titles for 2025 from the international governing body for track and field.
Boom. 52.46. Destroys the field. Gorgeous, stunning, smooth. Insane season opener.
Can't wait until she moves up to the 800/1500.
She will suck at the 800m. Whoever made that decision will and should be fired
Maybe, but she won’t know unless she tries. I’m looking forward to seeing her compete in it. She knew she’d never beat SML at any 400 event. She may excel at 800m.
lol now at the end of the year, we could see how delusional Bol fans are more clearly. Sydney is the ONLY T&F athlete on Forbes highest paid female athletes in 2025 list which means she's the highest paid female track athlete in the world. her marketing value (which is closely related to your 'actual' popularity, business knows the best) is higher than ShaCarri, let alone Bol.
I agree that Chef has some “issues.” BUT, I am intrigued by this idea of how fast Bol could run an 800m. She has stamina as shown in her relay performances (doubling back), I could see her going 1:58sh which is pretty darn competitive for most fields.
Yeah I think Bol would do very well at 800, much lower than I estimated a couple of years ago. By all accounts she dominates the group stamina sessions, especially the rare 800s. Several of her teammates raved on social media about one block of 800s, with Ajla del Ponte writing, "Bambi was awesome today." That's Bol's nickname within the group.
I’m rooting for her to kill it at 800m but what’s interesting is in 400h races versus SML, Bol is close at 300m and loses a ton of ground in the last 100m.
Perhaps SML simply saves more for the end, but doesn’t seem very promising for Bol’s stamina in the 800. Regardless, I’m sure she’s training for it.
I’m rooting for her to kill it at 800m but what’s interesting is in 400h races versus SML, Bol is close at 300m and loses a ton of ground in the last 100m.
Perhaps SML simply saves more for the end, but doesn’t seem very promising for Bol’s stamina in the 800. Regardless, I’m sure she’s training for it.
Ah, if it were only that simple.
It is not to do with 'stamina', rather how fast Bol has been able to open her first 200m. The irony is Bol does not run her optimal race plan when she runs against SML, in an attempt to beat her, rather than sticking to her best strategy (as she did in Budapest & Tokyo 25)
McLaughlin's PB over 200m is 0.57 faster than Bol's, yet in Paris in particular, Bol's game plan was to be level with Sydney at 200m. This meant running her opening splits faster than is actually optimal for her, meaning her strength at the end was not there. They learnt this the hard way: after doing it. But leading into Paris, Meuwly talked about how Femke & SML's 'straights' were pretty much the same, but SML's curves were much better. So they tried to work on her curve. But if you look at some of the race splits of different races, Bol's opening 50m is much slower, but her 2nd 50m is faster, because she surges to make up ground over the next 100m. By 150m she is pretty much level, but by then has put in more effort to catch up, and then by 250m she is ahead of where she should be, based on her speed, and that has been her downfall.
Do not confuse stamina or the pace at 800m, with opening too fast & dying at the end. SML did the latter herself at the Paris DL meet in 2023 when she went out far too fast for her ability then, and was treading water in the final 60m, allowing Paulino to swept past. It happens to the best of them: you open too fast, you die. It's not about 'stamina'. It's about the correct pacing. Even as much as just 1/10th outside your optimal pace can have a huge impact on your finishing speed.
She will suck at the 800m. Whoever made that decision will and should be fired
Maybe, but she won’t know unless she tries. I’m looking forward to seeing her compete in it. She knew she’d never beat SML at any 400 event. She may excel at 800m.
It is a well known rule in running that athletes aren't allowed to move up in distance. Read that somewhere. Maybe here.
I’m rooting for her to kill it at 800m but what’s interesting is in 400h races versus SML, Bol is close at 300m and loses a ton of ground in the last 100m.
Perhaps SML simply saves more for the end, but doesn’t seem very promising for Bol’s stamina in the 800. Regardless, I’m sure she’s training for it.
Ah, if it were only that simple.
It is not to do with 'stamina', rather how fast Bol has been able to open her first 200m. The irony is Bol does not run her optimal race plan when she runs against SML, in an attempt to beat her, rather than sticking to her best strategy (as she did in Budapest & Tokyo 25)
McLaughlin's PB over 200m is 0.57 faster than Bol's, yet in Paris in particular, Bol's game plan was to be level with Sydney at 200m. This meant running her opening splits faster than is actually optimal for her, meaning her strength at the end was not there. They learnt this the hard way: after doing it. But leading into Paris, Meuwly talked about how Femke & SML's 'straights' were pretty much the same, but SML's curves were much better. So they tried to work on her curve. But if you look at some of the race splits of different races, Bol's opening 50m is much slower, but her 2nd 50m is faster, because she surges to make up ground over the next 100m. By 150m she is pretty much level, but by then has put in more effort to catch up, and then by 250m she is ahead of where she should be, based on her speed, and that has been her downfall.
Do not confuse stamina or the pace at 800m, with opening too fast & dying at the end. SML did the latter herself at the Paris DL meet in 2023 when she went out far too fast for her ability then, and was treading water in the final 60m, allowing Paulino to swept past. It happens to the best of them: you open too fast, you die. It's not about 'stamina'. It's about the correct pacing. Even as much as just 1/10th outside your optimal pace can have a huge impact on your finishing speed.
Incorrect. Sydney is a substantial faster sprinter than Femke. Sydney's PB over 200M is 0.73 faster than Femke's, with Sydney's official outdoor 200M PB being 22.07 compared to Femke's 22.80.
Sydney being that much faster means that Femke has never had a chance irrespective of the type of race she runs. If she runs a slower 100M, Sydney would blow by her in the first 50M. If she tries to keep up with Sydney for the first 200M, the attempt will see her using a lot more energy. It would basically become an all out sprint for her to keep pace with Sydney and she will have nothing left in the latter half of the race. We saw this in Paris.
I wish her luck in the 800M. Perhaps she will do something similar in the 800M to what Sydney just did to the 400M at Worlds in Tokyo.
