My bill was $18.81, and I paid with a $20. Gen Z cashier had no idea what to do when I then gave her the extra 19 cents...

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

I'm sick of servers who think they deserve a tip for doing nothing. Easy job. Then they'll deviate from pretending to be extra nice if they don't get their way or a "bad" tip. They'll ask a rude question, "is this right?" for a "low" tip or suddely become cold as a microaggression.

They enable this behavior with an entitled culture amongst themselves and shaming anyone they don't like with immature gossip. It's their own little world. I've observed them doing this to others when I've been at large tables, or others at tables surrounding me, or myself when I feel like gathering information or bad experience, to get these data points. The young women might get lucky if a rich guy wants to flex, buy the entitlement/poor waitress shtick or is emotionally scarred to the point of being duped into a large tip for self validation and maybe thinks he has a shot. I've been there myself, embedded a few waitresses during my peak game level. But the premise of my argument remains.

Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

I know this is a troll thread (and one of the best in a while), but it does raise the question of are there basic things you can't do but other people can? And if so, what?

It seems like the things (listed below) that used to be normal, are now getting less and less common among Gen Z people.

Because I am old (went to college in the 1990s), we had to do everything IRL because our teachers didn't know that computers were going to replace thinking in the coming 20 years. They thought we would need this stuff like our ancestors did:

• We didn't have spell check, so we had to learn to spell.
• We didn't type and text everything, so you had to have some basic handwriting skills.
• We didn't have AI, so we had to learn how to write papers without just plagiarizing the whole thing.
• We did have pocket calculators on us 24/7, so we had to learn arithmetic.
• We didn't have contact lists, so we memorized everyone's phone numbers.
• We didn't have GPS, so we had to remember where everything was located and find our way around by thinking about where we were relative to the rest of the city.
• We didn't have apps for hook-ups, so if you wanted to get laid, it was best to talk to girls and have a girlfriend.
• We didn't have ÜberEats or DoorDash so we just learned how to cook.
• We didn't have cell phones, so when we made plans, we just had to trust the other person would be there (and we had to be there too).
• We didn't have phones, so when we were bored we just talked to people in person who were around us, in the dorm with us, or in the same dining hall.

The way it really was wrote:

Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

I know this is a troll thread (and one of the best in a while), but it does raise the question of are there basic things you can't do but other people can? And if so, what?

It seems like the things (listed below) that used to be normal, are now getting less and less common among Gen Z people.

Because I am old (went to college in the 1990s), we had to do everything IRL because our teachers didn't know that computers were going to replace thinking in the coming 20 years. They thought we would need this stuff like our ancestors did:

• We didn't have spell check, so we had to learn to spell.
• We didn't type and text everything, so you had to have some basic handwriting skills.
• We didn't have AI, so we had to learn how to write papers without just plagiarizing the whole thing.
• We did have pocket calculators on us 24/7, so we had to learn arithmetic.
• We didn't have contact lists, so we memorized everyone's phone numbers.
• We didn't have GPS, so we had to remember where everything was located and find our way around by thinking about where we were relative to the rest of the city.
• We didn't have apps for hook-ups, so if you wanted to get laid, it was best to talk to girls and have a girlfriend.
• We didn't have ÜberEats or DoorDash so we just learned how to cook.
• We didn't have cell phones, so when we made plans, we just had to trust the other person would be there (and we had to be there too).
• We didn't have phones, so when we were bored we just talked to people in person who were around us, in the dorm with us, or in the same dining hall.

You are not that old. I went to HS in the late 1960s and college in the 1970s. I don’t know where you lived but by the mid-1990s internet use was growing rapidly and a lot of people had a PC at home. I bought my first PC in 1987.

We didn't type and text everything, so you had to have some basic handwriting skills.

All my papers in the 1970s were done on an electric typewriter. In the 1980s in grad school all of my work was done on a PC (or a mainframe accessed with a terminal). I worked in an office in the late 1980s where everyone used a PC for everything.

We didn't have AI, so we had to learn how to write papers without just plagiarizing the whole thing.

Ever heard of the World Book or Encyclopedia Britannica? When I was a kid everyone copied from these, usually word-for-word. There has always been plagiarism.

We did have pocket calculators on us 24/7, so we had to learn arithmetic.

I assume you meant “didn’t”. By the 1970s pocket calculators were in widespread use. I even took a small one on a trip to Europe so I could see how much items cost in USD. Before that we had slide rules. In the 1980s we had Lotus 123 for almost everything related to math and numbers.

We didn't have contact lists, so we memorized everyone's phone numbers.

No one needed to memorize numbers. Everyone had a small pocket phone book or a rolodex.

We didn't have GPS, so we had to remember where everything was located and find our way around by thinking about where we were relative to the rest of the city.

Ever heard of maps? How did you find your way around a new city, especially when you were driving and needed to get to a specific address? Or in a city where people didn’t speak English.

We didn't have apps for hook-ups, so if you wanted to get laid, it was best to talk to girls and have a girlfriend.

Well, this one is true.

We didn't have ÜberEats or DoorDash so we just learned how to cook.

I never bothered to cook and managed without those services for most of my adult life.

We didn't have cell phones, so when we made plans, we just had to trust the other person would be there (and we had to be there too).

Did you know that before cell phones there were these telephones with a cord that were attached to the wall? There were even voice mail machines to leave messages.

The way it really was wrote:

You are not that old. I went to HS in the late 1960s and college in the 1970s. I don’t know where you lived but by the mid-1990s internet use was growing rapidly and a lot of people had a PC at home. I bought my first PC in 1987.

We didn't type and text everything, so you had to have some basic handwriting skills.

All my papers in the 1970s were done on an electric typewriter. In the 1980s in grad school all of my work was done on a PC (or a mainframe accessed with a terminal). I worked in an office in the late 1980s where everyone used a PC for everything.

We didn't have AI, so we had to learn how to write papers without just plagiarizing the whole thing.

Ever heard of the World Book or Encyclopedia Britannica? When I was a kid everyone copied from these, usually word-for-word. There has always been plagiarism.

We did have pocket calculators on us 24/7, so we had to learn arithmetic.

I assume you meant “didn’t”. By the 1970s pocket calculators were in widespread use. I even took a small one on a trip to Europe so I could see how much items cost in USD. Before that we had slide rules. In the 1980s we had Lotus 123 for almost everything related to math and numbers.

We didn't have contact lists, so we memorized everyone's phone numbers.

No one needed to memorize numbers. Everyone had a small pocket phone book or a rolodex.

We didn't have GPS, so we had to remember where everything was located and find our way around by thinking about where we were relative to the rest of the city.

Ever heard of maps? How did you find your way around a new city, especially when you were driving and needed to get to a specific address? Or in a city where people didn’t speak English.

We didn't have apps for hook-ups, so if you wanted to get laid, it was best to talk to girls and have a girlfriend.

Well, this one is true.

We didn't have ÜberEats or DoorDash so we just learned how to cook.

I never bothered to cook and managed without those services for most of my adult life.

We didn't have cell phones, so when we made plans, we just had to trust the other person would be there (and we had to be there too).

Did you know that before cell phones there were these telephones with a cord that were attached to the wall? There were even voice mail machines to leave messages.