Blade and Englehardt could likely handle Utah Jane's 4:43-45 first mile but Jane is way stronger than them. They all seem to be friends and that's a sweet sub-story.
Utah Jane: 9:29
Rylee: 9:36
Sadie Englehardt: 9:39
It’s more like faster than Blade, and stronger than Englehardt.
Exactly. You have to look at this year's results and recent form. The top two athletes clearly have a gap on the field, but after that it is too close to call accurately. It all depends on who peaks at the right time, who isn't tired that day etc. These competitors will also be competitors in college and the jury is very much still out on will perform the best over time at the D1 level. Some in this group might be overtrained and some undertrained. It is great to see a race with such high level talent across the board. Agree that this is a golden era.
No question Blade is strong (I think she could blast a quick half marathon) but Jane is beastly strong. All that altitude training in the Wasatch range gives her a massive cardiovascular advantage.
No question Blade is strong (I think she could blast a quick half marathon) but Jane is beastly strong. All that altitude training in the Wasatch range gives her a massive cardiovascular advantage.
If Blade and Hedengren swapped high schools and running backgrounds, who do you think would be better?
I don't know anything about Blade's background--can assume she's been in some SoCal youth running program for quite some time and has likely been running intervals since age 12. She's been national class for a long time. Same with Jane. Saw the video of their indoor 15:13/15:16 5K and nearly fell out of my chair when they went through 3200m in 9:50 while lapping dozens of people. Rylee was so gutty running out of her mind like that. Saw Jane run 9:35 at Arcadia. She is a monster talent. Used to see Molly Seidel run in HS in Wisconsin 3-4 times a year for several years but Molly was nowhere as fast as these 18-year-olds.
There were a couple women who ran the 24th mile at the NYC marathon or somewhere in 4:39 last year. That nearly knocked me out of my chair. When Blade went through 3200m in 9:50, the same thing nearly happened. She had a lot of run left in her.
4:18 in the 1500 is not predictive of the huge gap that is posted here in the two mile. It looks like there is on prohibitive favorite going for first and then a group of 5-7 going for second and third where it is very much up in the air. Recent results are the most important data points.
4:18 in the 1500 is not predictive of the huge gap that is posted here in the two mile. It looks like there is on prohibitive favorite going for first and then a group of 5-7 going for second and third where it is very much up in the air. Recent results are the most important data points.
Englehardt has reportedly been battling injuries. Very likely she won’t be in top shape, and unlikely to be competitive against Hedengren.
4:18 in the 1500 is not predictive of the huge gap that is posted here in the two mile. It looks like there is on prohibitive favorite going for first and then a group of 5-7 going for second and third where it is very much up in the air. Recent results are the most important data points.
This 'poor' performance from Engelhardt in her outdoor season opener makes her US#1 at 1500. It converted at 4:38 to US #1 at 1 mile and #2 1600 behind only Hedengren.
Rather than showing she will not be competitive at Brooks, it shows she will be competitive...
not with Hedengren/ perhaps Blade, but with all the others in the field.
These top performers you keep talking about basically run 4:40/10:00. If they were running 4:30/9:45, I would agree with you, but these ladies simply just are not yet fast enough.
4:18 in the 1500 is not predictive of the huge gap that is posted here in the two mile. It looks like there is on prohibitive favorite going for first and then a group of 5-7 going for second and third where it is very much up in the air. Recent results are the most important data points.
Englehardt has reportedly been battling injuries. Very likely she won’t be in top shape, and unlikely to be competitive against Hedengren.
Is Engelhardt fully healthy now and just working herself back into shape or is she still dealing with some sort of nagging injury?
If the latter, it probably doesn't maker sense for her to try and run a fast 2 mile and she will likely DNS.
If you just look at recent performances and data, not opinion, this is a very tight race for second and third. There is a prohibitive favorite for first, but outside of that nothing is clear at all. Lots of high level talent and smaller gaps than was originally posted.
If you just look at recent performances and data, not opinion, this is a very tight race for second and third. There is a prohibitive favorite for first, but outside of that nothing is clear at all. Lots of high level talent and smaller gaps than was originally posted.
I see the recent performances: 9:58 and 10:03 for Huyler and Thomsen. These are excellent times, but won't factors vs Hedengren, Blade and Engelhardt (in 4:38 mile shape).
Englehardt has reportedly been battling injuries. Very likely she won’t be in top shape, and unlikely to be competitive against Hedengren.
Is Engelhardt fully healthy now and just working herself back into shape or is she still dealing with some sort of nagging injury?
If the latter, it probably doesn't maker sense for her to try and
It appears she is now healthy again, but not yet 100% fit. This 1500m race Saturday was her first outdoor race of '25. Unless a change is announced she still plans to run usatf end July.
There are several athletes currently running fast mile and two mile times, many of these in small dual meets where they are time trialling and not benefitting form high caliber competition. The difference between a 4:38 mile and a 4:40 mile doesn't amount to much over two miles. Peaking at the right time, staying healthy and feeling fresh the day of the race is the most important. Anyone invited to the race is a fabulous athlete, and my only point is that the race for 2-3 is shaping up to be much closer than was originally posted.
Englehardt has reportedly been battling injuries. Very likely she won’t be in top shape, and unlikely to be competitive against Hedengren.
Is Engelhardt fully healthy now and just working herself back into shape or is she still dealing with some sort of nagging injury?
If the latter, it probably doesn't maker sense for her to try and run a fast 2 mile and she will likely DNS.
According to a recent interview (which I can’t seem to find now) she is recovered from the injury but had to miss out on a lot of quality training. Looking like she is going to try to ‘race’ herself back into shape.
According to a recent interview (which I can’t seem to find now) she is recovered from the injury but had to miss out on a lot of quality training. Looking like she is going to try to ‘race’ herself back into shape.
Not like she is not doing the regular routine of workouts now.
Like any high schooler, she will run a balance of races and workouts, as she gets back to top fitness.
Some high schoolers have to deal with 2x weekday dual meets, plus weekend invites. SE will be doing a lot less racing than that between now and usatf.