can anyone suggest a non-spike super shoe for racing the 800 and mile on the track. My daughter runs in a community that has mostly hard asphalt tracks, so they only get to wear spikes when the travel and or during championship season.
I would go for something like adidas adizero 8/9. It is light and fast with racing foam but not too high a stack height. Plated shoes normally have a big stack which is not ideal on track plus they might not allow in races
Ouch that shoe killed me, check out the post about this shoe on doctors or running, major post tib flare up. Yes I have imbalances, and this shoe exposed it majorly, where as I get along better with adios pro 3, boston 12, and endorphin pro 2
Has anyone been injured as a result of too much running in supershoes? They are harsher on the knees I feel.
Yet some people just train in plated shoes all the time.
Define super shoe. If you're saying anything with a plate you're including a ton of second and even third tier shoes. I do about half my miles in Mizuno Neo Vistas (long runs and easy runs), a third in Puma Deviate Nitros (sub-threshold runs), and the rest in a combination of Puma Velocity Nitros (easy runs, no plate), Brooks Hyperion Tempos (intervals/hills, no plate), and (rarely outside of races) Asics Metaspeed Sky+.
I actually got them because some review said they were stiff and thus better suited for a heavier runner who could "engage" the plate more if that makes sense. That and they were pretty cheap at the time. At some point I'd like to get something different just to compare. Thanks for the tip!
I'm running 160 miles a week in HFS barefoot shoe. Never owned a super shoe and never will. After 11 years running barefoot/minimal cushioning does nothing for me it feels weird and it's dead weight.
Personally, I can't wear them all the time without getting injured. At first, I only ran in plated shoes (Hoka Rocket X) in races. I heard they're good for everyday use because you're less banged up wearing them, so I started wearing them for all my runs. After a couple months, I injured my hamstring. Took 6 weeks off and had a PRP injection in the hamstring. I started running again, but mostly in non-plated shoes (Hoka Rincon). After a month, I started doing all my runs again in the Rocket X, and my hamstring started hurting. I stopped using the Rocket X and luckily the hamstring pain went away. Now I use them (Rocket X2 now) only for races and speed work, so 1 - 3 miles per week.
Also, I went back and looked over my cadence when I ran only in the plated shoe, and my steps per minute were lower for the same pace in the Rocket X. When I ran in them all the time, my cadence became consistently lower. So I train primarily in non-plated shoes both to prevent injury and to keep my legs used to a faster cadence.
I would go for something like adidas adizero 8/9. It is light and fast with racing foam but not too high a stack height. Plated shoes normally have a big stack which is not ideal on track plus they might not allow in races
Ouch that shoe killed me, check out the post about this shoe on doctors or running, major post tib flare up. Yes I have imbalances, and this shoe exposed it majorly, where as I get along better with adios pro 3, boston 12, and endorphin pro 2
Those are all high-stacked supershoes that would be terrible at 800/1500 speeds.
UKathleticscoach is right that the Adizero Adios 'flat' (NOT the Adios Pro supershoe) is good for quick running with fast ground contact.
Essentially plated (same "EnergyRods" as the Adios Pro)
Doesn't get much more super than that.
Except the Boston 12 has standard EVA in the heel, a very sloppy upper, and weighs 50% -100% more than anything generally regarded as a supershoe.
Oh, I agree that it is a bit more plush. (Though it is absolutely not double the weight of most supershoes lol.)
It has a springboard, the same springboard as all of the Adidas supershoes. It is as tall as a supershoe -- literally a millimeter under the legal maximum.
It is a supershoe.
The question wasn't "how much time to you run in good supershoes?"
Except the Boston 12 has standard EVA in the heel, a very sloppy upper, and weighs 50% -100% more than anything generally regarded as a supershoe.
Oh, I agree that it is a bit more plush. (Though it is absolutely not double the weight of most supershoes lol.)
It has a springboard, the same springboard as all of the Adidas supershoes. It is as tall as a supershoe -- literally a millimeter under the legal maximum.
It is a supershoe.
The question wasn't "how much time to you run in good supershoes?"
A shoe with EVA foam can - by definition - not be a super shoe. Hoka called their first Carbon X (featuring EVA) a super shoe, well it wasn't. A carbon plate or rods are not enough.
You should read up on super shoes. A carbon plate is not enough. You need super foam as well. A super shoe is very light. The Boston 12 has no super foam and is not light, hence it is NOT a super shoe.
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Mmm…yeah. Boston 12 is like a Frankenschuh. It’s got those rods that do supply the stiffness; the Lightstrike PRO which is devine and the same scheiße as in another LOVED super shoe, Takumisan namely; then the heel is made of this cloppity, left-over, lifeless, wide-yet-superbly-unstable, vomitable, “foam” that is a “2.0” version of the 1.0 kaka that was Lightstrike. And of course to round things out is that Conti tread which lasts forevah. Should be called the Adizero DrVicktor, it’s just bound to be AFU
Oh, I agree that it is a bit more plush. (Though it is absolutely not double the weight of most supershoes lol.)
It has a springboard, the same springboard as all of the Adidas supershoes. It is as tall as a supershoe -- literally a millimeter under the legal maximum.
It is a supershoe.
The question wasn't "how much time to you run in good supershoes?"
A shoe with EVA foam can - by definition - not be a super shoe. Hoka called their first Carbon X (featuring EVA) a super shoe, well it wasn't. A carbon plate or rods are not enough.
You should read up on super shoes. A carbon plate is not enough. You need super foam as well. A super shoe is very light. The Boston 12 has no super foam and is not light, hence it is NOT a super shoe.
Bizarre post.
"By definition" -- whose definition? Charlesvdw on Letsrun?😆 Your use of the word "definition" seems to be more like the conventional use of the word "opinion."🤡 Please provide a source for statements like that.
In any case, the Boston 12 has Light Strike Pro, the same as the Adios Pro and the Takumi Sen.
ah yes, a tool that has summarized every word published on the internet regarding super shoes must be inferior to your opinion. It really is well established that a bare minimum for consideration as a super shoe a shoe must have an advanced foam and typically a plate or rod system for further mechanical advantage. Even a nitrogen infused EVA falls well short of the properties of true super foams.