Respectfully, how the hell am I getting downvoted? I mean I'm literally right. Maybe Blanks could come up but we don't QUITE know just how good he is over 10K yet (although likely sub 27 as well) Woody has the standard as of right now and is a great championship racer.
Respectfully, how the hell am I getting downvoted? I mean I'm literally right. Maybe Blanks could come up but we don't QUITE know just how good he is over 10K yet (although likely sub 27 as well) Woody has the standard as of right now and is a great championship racer.
You are right, but Teare has a bigger base of irrational fans than Woody does.
Obviously he's realized he doesn't have a 1500 spot, but was this year his last real chance at a 5K spot?
I just don't see a scenario in which he gets on a start line with Fisher, Blanks, Young, Nur, Jacobs, Wolfe, Hocker, maybe Kincaid or Strand, and comes top 3. Especially if the race is above 13:10, which it likely will be.
I feel like this past year he could have had that Blanks/Wolfe spot, but these kids are just too fast now. Does he ever wear a USA jersey again?
I wouldn't sleep on CT running well this summer. He's posted some good indoor times, has a great training partner and coach, and is in a good spot. Yes, he does have exceptional closing speed, and if he's in the hunt with 2 laps or less to go in a 13:00-13:10 race he will be a problem. Will he win? It will be close, can he be in the top 3, absolutely YES!
If CT focuses on the 5000m at USA's this summer, he'll make the team.
The fatalism with Teare seems kinda wild to me. People are acting like he’s Stewy McSweyn as far as having no kick or strategy to win. In reality, if he gets it right at USAs he has as good a chance as anyone to hang onto Grant once he starts crushing the last 1K of the race. That’s especially if Blanks/Nico are doubling back. A fresh Teare is now more likely to be where Nur was last year than Nur himself given he’s been AWOL for months. After seeing Jacobs get dropped early in a fast race not sure why I’d be exactly sure he’ll get there either.
Obviously he's realized he doesn't have a 1500 spot, but was this year his last real chance at a 5K spot?
I just don't see a scenario in which he gets on a start line with Fisher, Blanks, Young, Nur, Jacobs, Wolfe, Hocker, maybe Kincaid or Strand, and comes top 3. Especially if the race is above 13:10, which it likely will be.
I feel like this past year he could have had that Blanks/Wolfe spot, but these kids are just too fast now. Does he ever wear a USA jersey again?
In a 13:00 race there is no way Coopr doesn't make the team. I think itll go his way this year
He really had a great race(at grand slam), just not tactically. Trying to go on the inside where there wasn't much room wasn't a great idea. If he just stayed up at the front at the bell lap, he could've won that race against a stacked field.
I don't think GST was actually a good indicator for Teare at all.
He should be beating Fisher in a 14:50 race.And Jacobs being right there with him was not a good sign. I don't think Jacobs will be in the Top 10 if the Trials 5K is above 14.
I mean, just think about it this way. We know Hocker beats Teare in a 1450 5K. Now we know Fisher does too. Which means Teare still has to fend off Nur, Blanks, Young, Wolfe, Jacobs, for one spot with no chance at the front two.
I don't think GST was actually a good indicator for Teare at all.
He should be beating Fisher in a 14:50 race.And Jacobs being right there with him was not a good sign. I don't think Jacobs will be in the Top 10 if the Trials 5K is above 14.
I mean, just think about it this way. We know Hocker beats Teare in a 1450 5K. Now we know Fisher does too. Which means Teare still has to fend off Nur, Blanks, Young, Wolfe, Jacobs, for one spot with no chance at the front two.
We don’t know that Hocker beats Teare in his 3rd race in 4 days. And again, if you watch the race, Teare lost due to tactical mistake to Fisher, so it’s not etched in stone that he loses next time.
I don't think GST was actually a good indicator for Teare at all.
He should be beating Fisher in a 14:50 race.And Jacobs being right there with him was not a good sign. I don't think Jacobs will be in the Top 10 if the Trials 5K is above 14.
I mean, just think about it this way. We know Hocker beats Teare in a 1450 5K. Now we know Fisher does too. Which means Teare still has to fend off Nur, Blanks, Young, Wolfe, Jacobs, for one spot with no chance at the front two.
When a race is decided by such a little amount in a 5000 it's logical to say x beats y everytime in a 14 30 race. The truth is in a race like that again both runners could do something differently and other factors may effect it. If I watched fisher blow by the field completely with 400 to go that's one thing. This race doesn't inducate that fisher would win it everytime.
All this race really tells us is grant is fast teare is fast and Jacob's is slightly less fast over the last 400.
When a race is decided by such a little amount in a 5000 it's logical to say x beats y everytime in a 14 30 race. The truth is in a race like that again both runners could do something differently and other factors may effect it. If I watched fisher blow by the field completely with 400 to go that's one thing. This race doesn't inducate that fisher would win it everytime.
All this race really tells us is grant is fast teare is fast and Jacob's is slightly less fast over the last 400.
But there is a 0% chance that anyone lets the Trials 5K be this slow. A race perfectly catered to Teare's strengths and Fisher's weakness, and he couldn't beat him. He's got absolutely zero chance in a race under 14
while he closed great and hope this gives him confidence going into the 3k on Sunday I don't think a sit and kick race is the best indicator of whether Cooper is about to have a breakthru season.
while he closed great and hope this gives him confidence going into the 3k on Sunday I don't think a sit and kick race is the best indicator of whether Cooper is about to have a breakthru season.
No I think his two indoor PRs are much stronger indicators.
Like in 2023 when he got bounced in the heats of the 1500m as the defending champ and then finished 5th in the 5000m 3 days later getting beaten by guys like McGorty and Klecker in a 13.25 race that should have perfectly suited his "1500m pedigree"?
If he even was able to replicate that 5th place finish again moving forwards it would be an absolute miracle. Maybe if the race got to 4600 on 13.45 pace and he was well positioned on the rail and a bunch of guys lost their minds in the final 250m he might get lucky.
Look you can still be very good in this sport and only have a short window at the top where you can make teams or get lucky enough to make teams. That's not even a controversial or critical statement to make - even recent history is littered with names of very good and talented athletes this applies to. Don't be mad, it's not personal.
You are just making a lot of silly points. In 2023, he was like a 13:10 guy struggling with BTC.
Last year, Teare just ran 12:54 / 3:32.1. He seems to be on track for a PR. I don’t know how many 12:50 or sub 12:50 guys you think we have that can close. In what world does a 12:54 guy have to get lucky to get 5th?
Teare is significantly faster than Blanks, Wolfe, Nur, etc over 800/1500 which makes him better equipped at a slow race. But he’s also fine if Grant wants to hammer it.
The point about the 1500m title race was that he closed in 51.87 in any race. Nur, Blanks, Wolfe etc would have all been well off that pace. They don’t have the speed Teare does.
Just bumping this one after watching that 13.15 race in Doha.
He was better than most everyone else except the top 3. Hopefully Cooper lives a better life style, keeps it classy and makes better decisions. Engels was a rodent of the sport, most likely to cook meth.
Obviously he's realized he doesn't have a 1500 spot, but was this year his last real chance at a 5K spot?
I just don't see a scenario in which he gets on a start line with Fisher, Blanks, Young, Nur, Jacobs, Wolfe, Hocker, maybe Kincaid or Strand, and comes top 3. Especially if the race is above 13:10, which it likely will be.
I feel like this past year he could have had that Blanks/Wolfe spot, but these kids are just too fast now. Does he ever wear a USA jersey again?
I wouldn't sleep on CT running well this summer. He's posted some good indoor times, has a great training partner and coach, and is in a good spot. Yes, he does have exceptional closing speed, and if he's in the hunt with 2 laps or less to go in a 13:00-13:10 race he will be a problem. Will he win? It will be close, can he be in the top 3, absolutely YES!
If CT focuses on the 5000m at USA's this summer, he'll make the team.
Lock it in!
I said it 2 months ago and I'll said it again now...
Even in a slower race, Coop can close. If he's in the hunt with 2 to go he'll make the team.
You are just making a lot of silly points. In 2023, he was like a 13:10 guy struggling with BTC.
Last year, Teare just ran 12:54 / 3:32.1. He seems to be on track for a PR. I don’t know how many 12:50 or sub 12:50 guys you think we have that can close. In what world does a 12:54 guy have to get lucky to get 5th?
Teare is significantly faster than Blanks, Wolfe, Nur, etc over 800/1500 which makes him better equipped at a slow race. But he’s also fine if Grant wants to hammer it.
The point about the 1500m title race was that he closed in 51.87 in any race. Nur, Blanks, Wolfe etc would have all been well off that pace. They don’t have the speed Teare does.
He was better than most everyone else except the top 3. Hopefully Cooper lives a better life style, keeps it classy and makes better decisions. Engels was a rodent of the sport, most likely to cook meth.