Should AOC be Imprisoned for Online Lecture on Constitutional Rights?

Demonstrably false.

She is a bartender who managed to get enough people to mark the box next to her name.

That doesn't make her smart and it isn't much of an accomplishment.

This sounds like an incredibly ethical and well-considered position. It seems as though I am dealing with a fellow constitutional scholar. Of course, if migrants don't have rights, then that would mean indefinitely jailing, torturing, or even exterminating them would be completely appropriate and lawful.

As a lifelong Christian and lover of Jesus Christ, I sympathize with your advocacy for unrestrained violence against desperate migrants. While many of them are women and children, the fact remains that they are not legal citizens and are therefore pure evil and undeserving of even basic human rights.

Do you really think that there are no non-white illegal aliens?

Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race.

Go to Boston, New York, Bay Area, and L.A. - you can find illegal aliens from Ireland.

Is this Ben Shapiro?

If Randy is actually Ben Shapiro it’s a welcome change to only have to read your insensible dribble rather than have it accompanied with your squeely, squeaky, high register, glass breaking, motor mouth voice. Please Ben, rich boy, keep educating and enlightening us with all your original fascist ideas you think nobody else on earth has yet thought of. You do such a good job.

you're play word games saying they never "detain" citizens. they have been pulling over plenty of folks, including navajos, who are citizens, just based on how they look. i am sure some folks if they don't have their paperwork right there, even get taken someplace.

there is no way this is getting done spotless because you don't know looking at someone what their status is.

which, when we're shifting from watching the borders to hunting everywhere, poses a basic probable cause problem. you see someone emerging from the rio grande, that is a migrant and their immigration status can be checked for obvious reasons.

but if they are just pulling over random folks for how they look, that's racial discrimination. i explained when this was first getting started, that the vast majority of folks, including hispanics, are legal. as such, if you just grab random hispanics, odds are heavy that you are wrong. my wife is hispanic but her family has been here more than a century.

Hispanic is not a race.

i mean, last i heard, navajos even have tribal plates. what kind of idiot is pulling over vehicles with tribal plates? that is probably even worse odds than normal state plates you're getting anyone doing anything wrong. probably nearing 100% wrong. they don't just hand out tribal plates. tribal plates implies rez life.

more word games. i happily invite you to discriminate on a hispanic co-worker then argue "well, it's more an ethnicity or heritage than a race." i will laughingly watch you get fired by HR.

Why or how would I discriminate against a Hispanic co-worker (which given my location and usual line of work is most of them)?

If they here legally or U.S. citizens, I don't care.

here's the deal. #4 on illegals is canada. #10 is poland. #17 is ireland. #20 is portugal. i could even point you to particular cities they might likely be found.

are we looking? or are we basically hunting hispanics and chinese?

While I am flattered by the comparison, I am not Ben. We do have a lot in common, though. We both have strong JudeoChristian Values (TM), we both wear suits to bed, and we both have relationships with our sisters that society doesn't understand. However, unlike Ben, my fancy little hat has a propeller on it.

more boring word games.

my original point, which you are trying to filibuster with what is becoming non sequitur, is if 80-90% of hispanics are "legal," which is roughly my understanding, then the odds favor the vast majority of grabbing random folks on the street for how they look, would not bear fruit. you would be discriminating on appearance.

are you checking the white people? i just showed 4 of the top 20 starting points for migrants are, essentially, white european countries. do we get a pass?

the basic deal is, short of driving around with mexican plates, which you sometimes see in border states, most people's immigration status isn't stapled to their shirt and obvious. so it's inherently "stop and frisk" type stereotyping without any probable cause for that specific person. do we care about the constitution anymore? GOP is in office so i guess not.

last point, since you are spinning, is regardless how you slice "hispanic," if you discriminated against them, the EEOC would take residence in your office. you would only look worse if you tried your little word parse game -- it would suggest you don't take hispanics seriously.

you can mess me around on "but i wouldn't do that," but that wasn't the point. i wasn't saying you must be the type. i am saying if you were the type, your parse would not be appreciated. would only dig the hole deeper. ok, so the guy who said the awkward things about hispanic and made the office icky also says "but it's an ethnicity not a race." you're doing great, keep it up.

just chef's kiss stuff here.

You are assuming that ICE is randomly rolling Hispanic looking individuals indiscriminately, yet have failed to demonstrate that this is happening.

yes, yes, i so want to be ben shapiro. you get phi beta kappa and latin honors from UCLA, and the golden ticket from harvard law and turn it not into supreme court justice, or high powered constitutional lawyer, but instead john stockton going to college campuses for controversial appearances in public spaces, then crying and trying to take a charge when you get heckled.

they will literally fire teachers in texas for discussing race, history, or gender in the wrong way, but that kind of hustling "asking for it" is somehow the realer free speech threat. oh, he got booed. and then he made a whole tour out of going places to get heckled and cry about it. that's a profession and not loss of one.

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hmmmm how could they have pulled over navajos and been wrong hmmmmmmm

and for someone nitpicking over words, "indiscriminately" means without regard. say, in texas near the border they might set up a roadblock and check EVERYONE.

my point is they are targeting a hue. ie "discriminately."

use words right if you are going to give people crap.

re "illegals don't have rights," thing is, citizens do, and as i explained, if you stop Jose Hispanic on the street, the vast majority are here legally, and a stop and frisk approach netting them is arguably unconstitutional.

if they aren't literally wading the rio grande or driving around with mexican plates, how do you know? you don't. you are making a guess and i just explained how that guess most times is wrong, and a violation of their rights.

i thought we already did this debate and court-determined unconstitutional conclusion on arapaio's show your papers law.

the guy every few posts repeating illegals have no rights is precisely why she gets to do what she did.

there are reports of citizens (including navajos and boricua) being pulled over or detained in raids (a) near the navajo rez, (b) newark, and (c) milwaukee.

you can pretend there is nothing showing it's racial but if you're grabbing indians and ricans it hints at something.