Oh and I’m going to trust Kipchoge’s opinion on Kenyan athletes’ responsibility (“We lack morals”) more than your’s. Stop blaming their doping problem on everyone but the athletes.
Oh and I’m going to trust Kipchoge’s opinion on Kenyan athletes’ responsibility (“We lack morals”) more than your’s. Stop blaming their doping problem on everyone but the athletes.
preface, i knew a lot of Kenyans back in the day running, sports school.
in this
BAN THEM
at the Junior and Senior level
they are the turds in the punch bowl, and the good ones don't make up for the shifty taste that goes across the entire planet of distance running..
OED wrote:
Here’s a fact: doping works, even for your precious Kenyan elites.
Here’s another: until 2014, Kenyans were not tested out of competition anywhere near the extent that western athletes were.
Here’s one last fact: no country has had more positive tests in the last five years than Kenya. Not even close.
I'm not sure any of those are facts, or even what is meant, or how relevant the "facts" are.
For example, I'm not sure what you mean by "works". Some years ago, I analyzed all time performances, which resulted in asking if doping "worked" to produce faster times for non-East Africans after 1990, due to the low quantity of high quality performances relative to 1990. I believe EPO "works" to produces red blood cell, also for Kenyan elites, and that steroids "work" to build and repair muscles for everyone. The question is always if any athlete can improve from their "clean" personal best performances with doping and not without. Note that non-doping, e.g. training at altitude, also "works".
Kenyans have been OOC tested since the days of John Ngugi, and OOC tested for EPO since the IAAF launched OOC EPO urine tests around 2002. I have never seen country by country testing figures for these early years before 2014. It is true that after the ABP came into effect, it was difficult to get OOC blood samples in countries like Kenya, due to complicated logistics and strict time and storage requirements. These constraints do not impact OOC urine testing. But OOC blood tests, and non-analytical ADRVS (e.g. ABP violations), account for very few doping positives compared to IC urine tests. Now that there is a local lab in East Africa, the strict time requirement is easier to meet.
Regarding most positive tests, according to WADA annual reports from the last five years (WADA reports lag a few years so we don't have ADRV or testing reports for 2023 and 2024), Kenya is still behind Russia in number of positive tests, and India is also close.
too long to read dude.
make it short. and powerful.
OP
One day you’ll wake up and realize what a loser you are. Sorry today wasn’t the day