Of course this is easy to say when it's not your wife, daughter, sister, niece losing out on a chance to compete because their spot is taken by someone with born with testicles.
It wouldn't matter if it was just one trans woman infiltrating high-level female sports, it's enough to nip it the bud (no pun intended) immediately and it shouldn't have even got this far.
as i just explained, you then don't care if a girl makes brown's baseball team (when they have softball) which costs a boy a slot.
also, i did the math for this on the SJSU volleyball controversy. maybe 15 girls on 300 teams. 4500 girls. if your kid can't find one of 4499 slots left after the trans girl signed, they had other, bigger problems than trans kids stopping them playing d1. there are 14 other slots that school. there are 299 other teams.
and, for that matter, a starter is not cutting your kid. the last kid on the bench is cutting your kid. at most, the starter creates a domino effect, but your kid still makes the team if they beat out the last domino.
it's fake.
as someone who supports participation trophies to keep young kids excited about their new sport where they may be working through growing pains, i find it amusing y'all now feel entitled to your medals.
The reality that you clearly believe the example you gave is comparable and equivalent to the situation which has caused the controversy in the last 5-6 years, simply leads me to the conclusion that the bother of even trying to enter a respectful, fact-driven conversation with you on your points would be an utter and absolute waste of time.
So you tell yourself whatever you need to my friend and stay fit with those mental gymnastics you got going on. Peace.
I'm as liberal as they come, and this is probably one of only a handful of things I'll ever side with Trump on. I probably still won't agree with however he goes about it, but MTF athletes absolutely do not belong competing against CIS Females.
In recreational leagues, freshman/jv teams? Sure. Inclusivity has value there. At higher levels of the sport, competitive integrity is far more important than inclusivity, the vast majority of people are already excluded by not being good enough.
I don't know where you live, but in my community there are no "recreational leagues" for 12-17 yr old kids. Every recreational league is either for under-12 or 18 & over, and not kid between age 12 and 17 is allowed to play in any of them. I think most kids from age 12 to 17 play sports on their schools' teams and therefore there is not enough demand for any recreational sports.
So does that mean no sports for trans girls from age 12 to 17? They can still play pickup games on the playground. But is that it?
I don't know where you live, but in my community there are no "recreational leagues" for 12-17 yr old kids. Every recreational league is either for under-12 or 18 & over, and not kid between age 12 and 17 is allowed to play in any of them. I think most kids from age 12 to 17 play sports on their schools' teams and therefore there is not enough demand for any recreational sports.
So does that mean no sports for trans girls from age 12 to 17? They can still play pickup games on the playground. But is that it?
They can play in the boys division, where they should play. Why do you want to allow men into our sports?
I don't know where you live, but in my community there are no "recreational leagues" for 12-17 yr old kids. Every recreational league is either for under-12 or 18 & over, and not kid between age 12 and 17 is allowed to play in any of them. I think most kids from age 12 to 17 play sports on their schools' teams and therefore there is not enough demand for any recreational sports.
So does that mean no sports for trans girls from age 12 to 17? They can still play pickup games on the playground. But is that it?
They can play in the boys division, where they should play. Why do you want to allow men into our sports?
That's like saying gay men can always marry women. Some gay men actually did. But that does not mean that was an option for every gay man.
BTW, I don't want to allow men into women's sports. I don't see this person as a man.
How does he define wo/man? The physician at the time of birth? Later? As it stands now, as per his executive order, gender is determined at conception, so we are all female.
Stop with this nonsense. Some of you idiots are just as bad as the hardcore MAGA people on how you just latch onto nonsense and parrot it. Sex can be detected almost instantly with today’s technology from even a 3 to 5 day old embryo (and the only reason we can’t sooner is because there literally aren’t enough cells to test / it can’t be done in a manner safe for the embryo.) I’ve literally watched how it works.
The claim that "everyone is female at conception" that some people have been relentlessly regurgitating in recent days like mindless automatons reading from the same script is indeed idiotic nonsense.
Using time-lapse photography, this video shows how human development unfolds from the moment that the sperm cell enters the egg cell to form a zygote through to the time approximately 144 hours later when the zygote has become a 6-day-old blastocyst.
None of the cells in the blastocyst have yet begun to differentiate in a sex-specific, tissue-specific or organ-specific way. As a result, there's no way to tell just by looking at this blastocyst from the outside if it's male or female - or what species it is either.
But this bundle of cells is male or female all the same. Because in mammals and birds, the sex of new offspring is determined by the DNA that's present in each nucleated cell of the new organism from the moment that the sperm enters the egg and a zygote is formed.
Of course this is easy to say when it's not your wife, daughter, sister, niece losing out on a chance to compete because their spot is taken by someone with born with testicles.
It wouldn't matter if it was just one trans woman infiltrating high-level female sports, it's enough to nip it the bud (no pun intended) immediately and it shouldn't have even got this far.
Of course, this is easy to say when the trans athlete who loses the opportunity to compete is not your daughter's, sister's or niece's best friend in high school.
Ah yes, the false logic circular argument. Round and round in circles - like a true Hobby Jogger. Yawn.
That Colbert clip you seem to think is so clever says, "according to biologists, the default configuration of a human zygote is female."
That's a misquote. The clip should say, "according to clueless misogynists who don't know the first thing about biology, the default configuration of a human zygote is female."
Pray tell, exactly what are the qualities that all human zygotes have in common that make every one of them female?
Their womanly curves? Their delicate bone structure? Their long hair? Their affinity for the color pink? The dresses, frilly clothes and hair bows they all wear? The dolls and "girly toys" they all play with? Their high-pitched voices? The girlish way they laugh? Their feminine wiles?
I'm as liberal as they come, and this is probably one of only a handful of things I'll ever side with Trump on. I probably still won't agree with however he goes about it, but MTF athletes absolutely do not belong competing against CIS Females.
Inrecreational leagues, freshman/jv teams? Sure. Inclusivity has value there. At higher levels of the sport, competitive integrity is far more important than inclusivity, the vast majority of people are already excluded by not being good enough.
I don't know where you live, but in my community there are no "recreational leagues" for 12-17 yr old kids. Every recreational league is either for under-12 or 18 & over, and not kid between age 12 and 17 is allowed to play in any of them. I think most kids from age 12 to 17 play sports on their schools' teams and therefore there is not enough demand for any recreational sports.
So does that mean no sports for trans girls from age 12 to 17? They can still play pickup games on the playground. But is that it?
They can play on the appropriate school team corresponding to their biology like everyone else
I don't like trans women in women's sports, but I wonder about the legal basis for his order.
I also don’t like trans women in women’s sports, but I’m tired of the fed forcing things on states by tying federal funding to doing something mostly unrelated to the funding.
another triggered republican thread on this sh*t? give it a rest boys.
sure i can agree it's not fair for women, but what there's like 5 trans women in this country who were born as men in high-level sports? is it really worth this much attention?
they are getting you boys triggered about non-issues while there are actual bad things to worry about. don't fall for it!
At last count there were 9 trans athletes competing across all collegiate levels....
9 out of 520,00 and this is now a national issue.
Meanwhile a non-elected 'employee' has free reign to everything, the market is a turd and inflation continues. Trade wars with long time partners brewing.
Oh yea we are going to annex several sovereign countries...
The distraction is the point when you are invoking a coup.
So, by your numbers, Trump is banning .00001731% of people from competing in the wrong category, and the libtards go insane? If there are no people affected, then what is he hurting by the ban?
Of course, this is easy to say when the trans athlete who loses the opportunity to compete is not your daughter's, sister's or niece's best friend in high school.
Ah yes, the false logic circular argument. Round and round in circles - like a true Hobby Jogger. Yawn.
Stitch, even though we do not agree politically, you know I love your stuff on here, I hope. You are anti transgendered from men to women , playing in women's sports right? It would honestly defy logic to me , how anyone supports a different position on this. By the way talked to Ronnie today, trying to piece together who you are ..LOL
another triggered republican thread on this sh*t? give it a rest boys.
sure i can agree it's not fair for women, but what there's like 5 trans women in this country who were born as men in high-level sports? is it really worth this much attention?
they are getting you boys triggered about non-issues while there are actual bad things to worry about. don't fall for it!
At last count there were 9 trans athletes competing across all collegiate levels....
9 out of 520,00 and this is now a national issue.
Meanwhile a non-elected 'employee' has free reign to everything, the market is a turd and inflation continues. Trade wars with long time partners brewing.
Oh yea we are going to annex several sovereign countries...
The distraction is the point when you are invoking a coup.
You could also say that's it's only 9 athletes so why have progressives been pushing SO hard for years to undermine women's sports?
How does he define wo/man? The physician at the time of birth? Later? As it stands now, as per his executive order, gender is determined at conception, so we are all female.
At last count there were 9 trans athletes competing across all collegiate levels....
9 out of 520,00 and this is now a national issue.
Meanwhile a non-elected 'employee' has free reign to everything, the market is a turd and inflation continues. Trade wars with long time partners brewing.
Oh yea we are going to annex several sovereign countries...
The distraction is the point when you are invoking a coup.
You could also say that's it's only 9 athletes so why have progressives been pushing SO hard for years to undermine women's sports?
They are not fighting for athletes in NCAA sports. They are fighting for athletes in high school and middle schools.
But I understand that high school and middle school sports are more serious competitions than the Olympic Games. That's why we need more exclusionary eligibility policy than the World Athletics.
I am not a Trump supporter at all but I agree with this. It had to be done. I have no issues with the LGBTQ community other than this. It's about unfair advantages. It's very clear if you understand physiology.
100% We need to stop playing politics on this one and not allow a man to pretend he’s a woman. #savewomenssports