Addy Rizenhein commits to NAU

It was meant as a joke. I meant like "sexuality studies" and degrees like that.

Don’t you have any children of your own to worry about?

Wrong! Like most schools, BYU has exactly zero announced commitments for the Class of 2026. Although sure, BYU may have a couple legacy girls in their back pocket like Lily Alder.

School isn't for everyone. You don't know what Addy's grades are like, and sending her to a place like Stanford/UVA/UW/etc. is in fact not good parenting if that's not the academic level at which she operates.

Actually, we know her GPA as a soph was 4.0/4.33 from the Gatorade post, right here on this thread.

Unless you think that info is a falsehood.

Who cares? Irrelevant if you’re planning on having a running career (if she’s not another Mary Cain) . Waste of a brain

It's hilarious how a high school girl's choice of a school triggers some of you.

There are more than likely a lot of NAU grads that are doing better in life than many of you losers. And as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, a calculus class at NAU isn't going to be that disparate from a calculus class at a Tier 1.

Not sure what you mean. Mary Cain had success as a pro runner, making the final of the Moscow world championship at 1500m.

Nike also paid for Mary's undergrad at Portland and Fordham.

Now post running career, she's in med school...at Stanford.

Addie would be happy with those outcomes

are you all idiots? GPA is ~irrelevant to Stanford, it's all about test scores. there are tons of kids with 4.0s who aren't nearly smart enough to go there.

i know you all weren't smart enough to go there but please, try and use your brains next time. talkin' bout GPA lol. please. that noggin of yours. try using it next time.

The Calculus professor at NAU is using the textbook; the Calculus professor at Stanford WROTE the textbook.

Education is not a commodity.

I realize life is not fair and many kids with 1600 SAT and 4.0 / 4.8 gpa with 12 AP courses and a national champ science project don't get into Stanford.

This thread though is about athletes.

4 min milers, fast swimmers, champion golfers, and strong armed quarterbacks get into Stanford with 1280 SAT, 3.3 / 3.6 and no AP courses. Not fair, but that is the system in place.

Colleges look at both GPA and test scores. In recent test optional period, GPA was enough. With required testing, 4.0 / 4.33 gpa is a pretty good indicator that a kid can make 1300 on SAT with proper preparation.

2.5 / 2.5 gpa indicates no matter how fast they are, Stanford not in their short term future.

So just looking at gpa does give you a very good idea what kind of student someone is.

That would be true in an ideal world, but signaling matters. The "brand" name on an Ivy League degree will open doors even if the actual graduate is a bit of a moron.

Yet losers like you continue to critique the school choices of others.

Doers do and losers lose.

Let me help out here with fresh information from the recruiting trail at Stanford. They are looking for academic rigor. They want to see 4-5 AP's per semester. Yes, they do care about your GPA, and yes, they do care if you are sub-8:50 or sub-10:10 and a national qualifier in XC, but their message was we want to see 4 more AP's your senior semester. That was the message, loud and clear. It's up to the kid if they want that workload or not and that is how Stanford determines offering an XC spot and potential scholarship.

You are right about Ivy signaling.

...but undergrad at NAU with 3.7 gpa

then MBA at Tuck Business School at Dartmouth ...

gives you exactly the same signaling and the same salary track as undergrad from a top school.

Nice post.

Interesting also is how early kids are commiting. It's now Jan '25, and Addie Ritz won't roll on to college campus until Sep '26. She can't formally commit in writing til Nov'25.

I don't think the Ivies or Stanford/Duke/Notre Dame would even make a commitment this early. They would rather see a couple more semesters of grades and test scores from a 2nd semester jr.

Son you think it’s the textbooks that determine the superiority of an education?? 😂

A ton of people take their first standardized test in the fall of their junior year (and take the PSAT in that October). So even if they'd only get a 1500 - even for a straight Asian or white student - I don't think that would be a detriment to a recruited athlete

It's funny, having the guy who wrote the book as the classroom instructor not always helpful. Kotler at Northwestern was a notoriously bad classroom teacher for marketing. Often grad assistants also have most of the face time with students, rather than the big name Prof.

Now if you can do research for a top Prof and actually work daily with them, that's a huge benefit.

What is always amazing at top schools though is the brilliance and talent of your peers. When you suddenly realize EVERYONE in your Calc 3 class has a 1600 SAT, you don't want to embarass yourself and let your classmates down. You are driven to work hard and get pulled along by the group. Even moreso in discussion classes and on group projects.

That is not always the case at State schools.