Shelby Houlihan back training at Nike “Restrictions end Thursday”

She missed two Olympics. Her prime years. No consequences?

Karissa will be happy to get her training partner back; 14:18 coming right up!

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You would lose a discrimination suit.

This is the level of brain dead take I would expect from the message boards. Yes you will loose your CPA if you commit fraud and violate accounting principles. Shelby didn’t steal spikes from Nike, she committed fraud.

So because I am advocating for rule changes in the sport to be harsher on people openly making a mockery of it, I myself am somehow breaking a rule??

She is still one of my favorite runners.

Her Nuguse Keljecha Brazier, Wiley, Kerr, mu, Muir. Hopefully some of you guys don't only like the relevant runners.

Karissa needs to leave if Shelby goes back to BTC, there is no upside to it. If she starts running fast again, no one will believe it's legit and she will be labeled a doper. If she never runs fast again, she will be deemed to be washed and people will assume was doping in the past when she was fast. There is no good outcome for her career. She must do a clean break and start fresh.

Please Karissa, trust me.

(Is there precedent for Nike paying people during suspensions?)

That’s beside the point. The point being she should just let it go and do something else. Life isn’t just all about elite sport. What does she want to prove?

This was your comment.

"A failed drug test is auto ban for life and stripped of all titles and records."

Advocating to change a rule is fine. She boke a rule that has a punishment which she served. Afterwards, she is on the same level as her competitors. Stating that she should be banned for life would be supporting a punishment that differs from the rules.

Why should she go away? Should all pro runners go away?

If they’re all doping- yes. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that would love the opportunity to run and compete without steroids of bull testicles burritos!

I think it has to do with the burden of proof. When someone tests positive, the burden of proof is on them to demonstrate that the positive test was caused by something other than PEDs. I believe that it absolutely has to be that way, otherwise too many guilty parties would get away with doping. But, it does create a higher chance of an innocent person being banned. Thus there is some reluctance to have a first-time doping offense trigger a life-time ban.

She isn't doping. She served her ban and has been clean for 4 years.

I feel the same way but deep down, these people shouldn't compete again.

Let her do her and then you don't have to swing from her sac all angry. Free country, paid her dues, movedotcom - the real losers in this whole thing are the ones crying like little brats. feel free to unfollow her from all socials. I for one, am PUMPED she is racing again. she broke an american record in practice last year. can't wait for it to start counting again.

She is free to compete again.

I am also free to not support or respect her as an athlete going forward

Yes, but only on the balance of probabilities, f.ex. over 50%. They do not need hard core evidence. Lawson and Wilson are good examples here: both only proved that they ate beef, and their test data lined up with the beef contamination theory. No proof that the PED was in the beef, yet no ban.

Shelburrito on the other hand, well you know, she didn't order pork, it wasn't uncastrated boar, it was at best stomach offal with too low nandro content (even if it was uncastrated boar and she received that very order), and the CIR proved it was synthetic nandrolone which wouldn't have come from the uncastrated boar. All wrong. CAS was unanimously against her theory on all points. No chance.

Glad she got laughed out of town. That beef burrito will be a joke for the ages, like the sex with the missus who deserved a treat and the vanishing twin.

runningmagazine.ca

12 ridiculous excuses for why athletes failed a drug test - Canadian Running Magazine

Tim Huebsch

“There’s a lot of ghosts around here. Ghost put it in there. You know, the ghost of Christmas past?...I don’t know.”

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It's just a weird thing to focus your energy on. I'd say you're not really free with these thoughts, rather trapped in a sad emotional state caring about what someone else chooses to do with their career. Now, if she was wasting her time complaining about you- I'd say something similar to her. however... as the ice queen once said- Let it goo