Emma Coburn is a mom!

Yes, there is a connection. They all involve using the body to do compensated work. The other poster objected to surrogacy because of its health risks. As I pointed out, being a stunt double has health risks too. Lots of jobs have health risks, so that’s not a good reason to be against surrogacy.

So you support vaccine mandates?

Absolutely agree! Nobody needs to explain to anyone else why they do what they do.

People harp on this website for negativity but I think this is an interesting discussion, with some insightful comments - that Emma has opened up to public opinion by publicly posting about it on instagram

if her and her husband wanted a child and weren’t able to conceive I’d applaud their desire to be parents and have a family and I think it’s wonderful

If she chose to outsource her pregnancy because she didn’t want it to impact her body for vanity reasons or to prolong her running career I find that strange and off putting. Pregnancy is hard, child rearing is hard, but that is part of what makes it special and rewarding. If you pay others to do it for you, that misses the point

would you pay to outsource your training and qualification then show up at worlds ready to race if it was possible?

I see all the lonely misogynists posting on yesterday's now deleted thread (on the same topic) are back in full force! What a cesspool this place has become.

Like MMR and Polio? Can you be more specific? This isn’t a HS debate it’s letsrun message boards, bring your A game.

Everything has a line, It’s not all the same thing. She can legally do what she wants in this situation. Should it be legal? Should she be judged even if it’s legal? Is it creepy and gross and problematic to do it solely for career reasons? Is it great for purely health and medical reasons? Things that make you go hmmm

The most important thing for the health of a child is having a loving and supportive family that provides good care. We have ample evidence to know that a child's parent(s) or guardian(s) doesn't need to be biological for the child to thrive. Healthy and happy families come in many forms.

Moreover, we know that being raised by one's biological parents is far from a guarantee that a child will turn out to be healthy and happy.

WTF!!! Starting a family and becoming a parent to a baby is way more important and fulfilling than having a track career.

Yes, and others like SAFP do both without fanfare.

We can ask a moral question without being a cesspool. I am a woman with a PhD and not some random idiot. Which I already have been called on this thread. Stop it. Not every discussion you dislike is a forbidden one.

I do understand how surrogacy can by used to exploit poor people, but the only surrogate I know is clearly upper middle class American and carried babies for other people because she wants to help them and I'm sure finds the money useful as well. Emma's surrogate could have been a family friend. I have many of the same questions (in my head) as others in this thread but I will keep them to myself.

It sounds more like you want my legal right to disagree with this to be illegal. I 💯 support her legal right to do this. However I don’t agree with it at all(if done solely to avoid the inconvenience of pregnancy on capitalism), and it is sad how it’s look at as a win win financial decision for all involved.

This has been my experience. I don't know where I stand on the regulatory front, but if you work with a reputable agency they have a thorough screening process for prospective carriers. One of the things they want to ensure is that the carrier isn't doing this purely for money, that they're not so poor where the fee is everything. Typically it's a middle class family where the money can be spent on going back to school, buying a new house, etc.

Sure, but there is a time and a place. And this isn't it. You know nothing about Emma Coburn, and this thread is about her and her new baby. Take your moralizing elsewhere. A new thread if you must.

More broadly (beyond just you), this thread is a great example of the lowest of the low of Let's Run. Right-wing lunatics (e.g., Glitter Bomb) always out in force to politicize any and all topics. The sniping and inappropriate comments. Etc, etc, etc.

My favorite is the complete idiot who has the gall to ask inappropriate questions on Emma's IG and then comes on here to complain that he/she was blocked. Can't make this stuff up. It's like an awkward, cringe comedy sketch.

She does look fit . Surrogate

Yes, but that's not the question here. Kids are raised by non-birth and genetic parents all the time, but it's typically not planned prior to conception. Kids survive all sorts of stressors, but that doesn't mean we should intentionally create that stressor unless we have a compelling reason to do so. Surrogacy means knowingly creating that stressor.

The proper comparison here is between babies matched on all factors except for separation from the gestational mother at birth.