More than 50% of students pay $90K per year to attend. You obviously.are a low class guy who strangely brags about it. My daughter is attending Princeton and we are paying full fare. She has about a dozen high school friends attending similar schools and none receive a discount because we are all smart and successful people.
Most D3 schools are worse academically than D1 schools.
Can you please post a link to your source that show this.
There are some bad schools that are D1 as well as D3. D1 publics like UVa, Michigan, UNC, UCLA, Ga Tech, Florida, Berkeley, Ohio State, USC, Wisconsin, and many others are great schools. The privates like ND, Duke, Stanford, and others are also great. There are also a ton of great D3 schools. I would put most of the UAAs. NESCACs, and 5Cs up against any of the aforementioned schools.
The important thing is to find the school that works for the individual. Whether it is D1, 2, or 3, junior college, trade school, public, private, or whatever. Blanket statements like yours serve no purpose.
More than 50% of students pay $90K per year to attend. You obviously.are a low class guy who strangely brags about it. My daughter is attending Princeton and we are paying full fare. She has about a dozen high school friends attending similar schools and none receive a discount because we are all smart and successful people.
My kids attended U of Chicago, WashU, and Michigan, but thank you for your concern.
Haha slow d3 dummies. 1430 is a walk on time. Haha slow pokes. Have fun placing 3rd in the turkey trot. Can you even get a job with a d3 degree though to pay for the entry? Maybe they'll give you thaksgiving off from the cash register haha.
I'm amazed by how many people on this site rag on slower runners. Why?
Waiting for the real race but the d3 jv (all d3 is jv except like 2 guys) take forrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeever. No one should have to suffer a MENS 10k over 30 minutes before their heat.
There are some great D3 schools but the average is a Wartburg or North Central or UW Lacrosse. Schools like those have average ACTs of 23. Average D1 schools are Oklahoma or Indiana or Arizona. Indiana average is 30. Arizona average is 26. And D1 schools educate 100 times as many students as D3. Thebottom line is that 100 times more people walking around got a better education at a D1 school than a D3 school. The ratio is the same as it is for top runners. There are a few good runners in D3 but 100 times more good ones in D1.
There are some great D3 schools but the average is a Wartburg or North Central or UW Lacrosse. Schools like those have average ACTs of 23. Average D1 schools are Oklahoma or Indiana or Arizona. Indiana average is 30. Arizona average is 26. And D1 schools educate 100 times as many students as D3. Thebottom line is that 100 times more people walking around got a better education at a D1 school than a D3 school. The ratio is the same as it is for top runners. There are a few good runners in D3 but 100 times more good ones in D1.
You are free to spend an hour sifting through the data. I went through about 25% of the schools in 15 minutes. I am eager to see what you come up with but I am confident that your data will be 99% the same as mine.
The thing is, at whatever level you’re running, be it HS, D1, D2, D3, you’re competing in your own little world, so you just contend with the times and teams in front of you. I ran D3 and had a great time. We were really slow compared to D1 schools– think 24 to 26+ min 8k times in cross country – but we had a lot of fun working out and racing without really any pressure. We would spike up and compete but we also acted like college kids. I regularly would enjoy a cold and crappy beer out on the course with my friends after a meet, like a regular person might after finishing a local road race. We just had fun, because we were doing the sport for fun. The D1 guys I knew seemed to be wound a little tight, and a few of them were on teams as bad as ours.
More than 50% of students pay $90K per year to attend. You obviously.are a low class guy who strangely brags about it. My daughter is attending Princeton and we are paying full fare. She has about a dozen high school friends attending similar schools and none receive a discount because we are all smart and successful people.
Cool. Now look at athletic $ at comparable schools (Duke/Stanford). That’s a real thing.
These takes and some of the ones in this thread are unfortunate. If you know anything about college running, is that D3 nationwide is incredibly good and keeps getting better. There's almost 500 D3 schools so of course there are slow schools and conferences. If youre questioning the quality of a D3 basketball athlete is, go play one. Maybe you'll learn something (I hope its Duncan Robinson)
I probably could have emphasized more that I was scraping the bottom of the barrel. A I'd say the same thing in response to a bunch of what VIT said. I'd lose to the median D3 runner for sure. I just kind of thought I'd be the worst in all of D3 and I'm kind of surprised that isn't really the case. I'm worse at basketball than I am at running so maybe I would lose to the worst D3 player there, but if it's like running I know people who wouldn't.
So I am totally perplexed as to the point of your post. To mock less talented DIII schools/runners? To reveal what everyone who follows college running knows? I for one am glad both D1 and D3 exist and across the schools in each you will see opportunities for students of varying levels. So many are obsessed with D1 but a tiny % have any possibility of developing to something beyond college so kids should choose a school that is academically, socially, and athletically right for them and enjoy.
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