The greatest footballer of all time was on HGH as a youngster cos he was too little. He is a drug cheat! All sport is bent, the world is full of cheats! Who cares I love it anyway!
Its only because of the stupid public that we have all this hypocrisy. Panto style booing for people like Gatlin while Super Bolt untainted but visiting some German doctor wizard every Summer. Its all a joke.
Same as Trump. So obvious there was no assassination and that was ketchup on his face. The ruling class are comedians.
Very very very super very bad take!!!!!!!!
Leo Messi isn't a PED abuser excuse me sir??????
He was medically diagnosed with a HGH deficit as a child, so that's a TUE exemption you fool!!!!!!!
Even my enemies on LRC would have no choice but to agree with me as I'm capable now of writing pure facts 100%!!!!
Usain Bolt wasn't taking PEDs in Germany alright!!!!!!!! He was on some special therapy (legal) that uses some animal's blood like sheep or goat if I remembered correctly, it's for regenerating muscles/tendons and promoting recovery and healing, it's not blood doping or EPO or anything like that!!!!!!! I know my man Usain Bolt very well!!!!!!!!! His space-time trajectory are all predicted and predictable in hindsight!!!!!
And Trump was nearly killed twice, that's fact you fool!!!!! I'm capable of pure facts when the occasion requires it and now is the time for it!!!!!!!! It's not ketchup alright!!!!
Kipchoge medaled at the Olympics and WCs after EPO testing was introduced. He also ran 7:27, 12:51, and 26:53 later in his track career under the bio passport. I don’t think he was clean, but what you’ve written is completely false.
which was a long way from his 12:46 PB set in 2004. And he also for some reason lost his devastating kick. The fastest close I saw from him after Athen was about 55, compared to 53 in Paris in a 12:52 race. Still very good, and made him a solid medal threat, but not nearly as good as his 2003-2004 self.
Yes, agree, that's a reasonable take sir!!!!!!!! Better than the post that says Leo Messi is a PED abuser lol!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Kipchoge's trajectory after 2003 was blighted with difficulties. His dip actually already started in 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why did I say that?????
Reason: while he won world junior XC in 2003, he was PROMOTED to the senior XC race in 2004 rather than continue another year in the junior category because he deemed too invincible in XC with his victories on XC and track previous year. He was only 19 but expected to run Bekele very very close and even beat him in the senior 12km race in Brussels!!!!!! But as it happened, Kipchoge was dropped early in the race and reduced to a mid-pack and nowhere near the top 5 or top 10. This defeat and failure must have hit him very hard and he must wonder why such a big change in fortunes over XC in only 12 months and after winning 5k world champs 5 months earlier. It doesn't make sense for his young brain then!!!!! It may have set the stage for PED abuse later on in his career as he grapples with not being able to realize huge expectations from himself, coach, friends and public to beat Bekele and match him stride for stride!!!!
While he ran 12:46 for 5k that summer after his 2004 world xc failure, Bekele ran 12:37 instead, so another huge blow to his ego. Bekele also ran 26:20 that summer in Hengalo, a bummer for Kipchoge before Athens Olympics. Kipchoge knows he was supposed to be good enough for the 5k WR at least that summer and should be ahead of Bekele in 12:36 after bagging the 5k gold at world champs by beating Bekele and El G, but the truth is he was physically not as good or already deteriorated after 2003. My expert take would usually be a new 3G RF mast was erected in his training grounds in Eldoret, thus irradiating away his talent for distance running which would have been unmatched by Bekele and El G. I truly thought myself when Kipchoge won 2003 world champs that he was fit to become the new king at 5k and 10k and XC!!!!!!!!!
I really did believe so myself and I'm sure many LRC folks did too!!!!!!!!!!! Like everybody else, I too was shocked at how biomechanically uninitiated Kipchoge ran his final 400m of Athens 5000m, looking cumbersome and ungainly compared to that silky smooth and majestically striding limbs in Paris 5k the previous year!!!!!! Kipchoge seemed to lose neuromuscular finesse after 2003 world champs 5k which I suspected to be aligned with the commissioning of a new 3G mast right beside the track he trains on and still trains on today and for the past decade!!!!!! The way Kipchoge moved his limbs just changed completely and while he had occasional success every now and then it probably spoke to doping sophistication rather than reaping any training benefits since there was zero benefit running under the irradiation of a 3G, and now upgraded to 4G since 2017, mast beside his training track.
LRC folks do correctly note his loss of devastating kick tied in with loss of biomechanical finesse and mastery. He was no longer moving his limbs properly, no longer coordinating them at the correct space-time intervals to the trained eye of mine, it was out of sync with the natural frequencies of bushlands and synced instead with 3G/4G masts.
I feel bad for Kipchoge really, had he been training elsewhere in Kenya and not on Eldoret's university's training track with a phone masts just beside it, he might have matched Bekele every step of the way.
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Definitely duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bekele's space-time history was more consistent and predictable without sudden shifts and abrupt changes in his preferences, behaviors and career approaches on the tracks, XC and roads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even his injuries were so predictable with predictable time frames and return to form (which he never did on the track which was PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Everything about Bekele was PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Kipchoge's was shock after shock after shock performances ALL IN HIS MID 30s LOL!!!!!
How can this be folks, pls tell me!!!!!!! Impossible!!!!!!
Haile Geb and Hicham El King Guerrouj were also all PREDICTED space-time thus all clean as a whistle!!!!!!!!!!
All with consistent space-time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucky for runners in USA running groups where there were busts for doping mean they were the only ones and not everyone involved especially when the coach doesn’t know what is and what is performance enhancing drugs
You words don't make any sense at all???? What are you writing about??? It's not grammatically clear alright sir!!!!
No one other than Bekele could, because he made his move at 3k, and ran the last 2k in 4:56. Kipchoge couldn't run faster than 59, because he ran the previous 4 laps in 59.
If you have to frame things in such a misleading manner, do you really think you have a good point?
No, it's only one lap that's 59, other were in around 61(or 60 high) before the bell. Still, Kip never closed faster than 55 again even in a slow race after Athens.
Correct, I also knew that sir!!!!! It was the first thing at the back of my mind when I think of Kipchoge:
"WHERE IS THE 53 SECOND KICK GONE TO????"
"Actually, where is even the 55 second kick gone to too????"
Kipchoge's best close after Athens was a 52.8 at 2007 Osaka world champs 5k but it was a super slow 13:45 race so anybody can kick well at that pace!!!!! What's the point right folks???? It doesn't count!!!!
We need Kipchoge kicking a 12:50 race in 52.8 rather because he was supposed to be destined for such greatness after what happened when he was 18!!!!
Who was the last world record holder who was caught using EPO (men)?
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weird…
What are you trying to hint sir???? Be clear pls!!!!! Doping is so sophisticated these days you really think Kipchoge magically become sub 2 superman at 33 years old is clean????
Khamis - don't ever give up the fight in your anti-doping crusade! I'm with you 100%.
I'm curious as to your thoughts about whether there is a glimmer of hope that the AIU can still nab Kipchoge despite the latest retirement news. Any chance they will reanalyze prior samples?
He without a shred of doubt doped. All of the elite athletes do. It’s just a matter of being able to use the right masking agents to stay ahead of the tests and to avoid testing by bribery, excuses, poor national testing, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if every single Olympic athlete over the last sixty years has doped, if not further back than that. Some get caught and some don’t.
Khamis - don't ever give up the fight in your anti-doping crusade! I'm with you 100%.
I'm curious as to your thoughts about whether there is a glimmer of hope that the AIU can still nab Kipchoge despite the latest retirement news. Any chance they will reanalyze prior samples?
Kipchoge is a filthy coward. Retired like a wimp and obviously trying to escape further scrutiny and avoid risking further damage to his already increasingly damaged reputation.
He just leaves the sport like that leaving so many confounded and scratching their heads at what exactly transpired with him. His decline was as magical as his incline to stardom!!! His exit from the sport just as clandestine as his entry into it (marathoning from 5k). Is he the new David Copperfield??????
Now people don't know what agenda he has because even his retirement is so abrupt, as abrupt as his sudden physical deterioration!!!!!!
What's all this??????? He didn't even hold a farewell party or something, as true champions with no guilty conscience and nothing to hide will throw a lavish celebration of some sort or similar to bid the sport farewell!!!!!!!
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He without a shred of doubt doped. All of the elite athletes do. It’s just a matter of being able to use the right masking agents to stay ahead of the tests and to avoid testing by bribery, excuses, poor national testing, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if every single Olympic athlete over the last sixty years has doped, if not further back than that. Some get caught and some don’t.
Well not everyone dopes, but a lot dopes!!!! Bekele and Haile Geb and Hicham El King Guerrouj all didn't dope. One must know how to assess the space-time susceptibility of athletes outside standard tests and violations to know who is probably doping.
My RF nous puts me in position to be a badass doper-slayer because RF is all about space-time mastery!!!!
Who was the last world record holder who was caught using EPO (men)?
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weird…
Rhonex Kipruto a few months ago. Before that presumably Abraham Kiptum.
Thanks for coming to my rescue my trusty Coevett darling!!!!!!! Thanks for saving me once again!!!!! I really appreciate your antidoping expertise a lot!!!!!
Khamis - don't ever give up the fight in your anti-doping crusade! I'm with you 100%.
I'm curious as to your thoughts about whether there is a glimmer of hope that the AIU can still nab Kipchoge despite the latest retirement news. Any chance they will reanalyze prior samples?
Well yes they will hopefully keep his samples for long but I highly doubt WADA wants to tarnish its own sport by implicating Kipchoge for doping. It will make Seb Coe really upset too!!!! It really depends how strong the forces of darkness are and whether it has enough willpower to keep Kipchoge's doping under wraps forever!!!
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