How to explain the "Childless Cat Lady" phenom?

Soy boys on LR would make a perfect match with a cat lady..

Every childless cat lady would rather be married with kids.

Every. Single. One.

incel is basically like white non-college affirmative action for the dating world. like the folks who want all the college requirements removed from job openings. and 50 years ago they would be right what was asked. but the world has changed. this is the same thing but for sexual politics. i don't have to be more attractive, groomed, socially polite, etc. you need to change. go back to dated historical norms and sensibilities to suit me.

even in jane austen's era the boorish ugly older man who thought his property sufficed, was a negative cliche. there would have been more familial and societal pressure to play along with the cliche, but there was some choice then too. and even those women wanted a romance and not to be married off to some slob.

this is fake. no one who says they are voluntarily celibate as a male then begrudges females the same choice. if you wanna monk you don't care if women nun. period.

still not taking the bait.

the fallacy in comparing "incel" to "childless cat lady" rhetoric is a great many folks self-describe as the thing, and there is a basic mentality they generally have that some who don't use the label would track to.

"cat lady" is generally something said about someone else, rarely self-identified, and the self-identity would not match up with what the label means when used by the right. the term is freighted with broader, negative meanings when used on the right.

vs. if i showed someone with a particular set of beliefs what an incel thinks -- self-identified ones -- they'd be like, yeah, i agree with that. even if they resist the label.

it's like a nominal "conservative" or "independent" who has voted "republican" in bulk and believes 99% of what the party does. walks like a duck, quacks like one.

"...begrudges females the same choice"? Where did I do that? I simply pointed out your hypocrisy in accusing people of using an "amorphous slogan" when you yourself are doing that.

You seem to be mixing up my statements with some other posters.

I'm sure many think women entering the white collar work force "corrupted" them but all it really did was allow them to exercise their standards which society didn't allow them to in the past. Look at some of the crap posted in this thread. Assuming a 50/50 male/female ratio each poster here equals one woman who won't be partnering up (I jest...slightly). I'm sure many woman who were married and popped kids out the last 10,000 years would have preferred to be single but would have starved to death had they done so.

The modern working world just also doesn't encourage having children. Even ignoring personal opinions on having kids, urbanization of the workforce means those with means in their main childbearing years are cut off from traditional familial support networks such as parents, cousins, etc. You get a cool job and move from OH to Boston and meet a nice girl who got a job and moved from KY to Boston. Do you have kids? There's a lot more going against that decision than if you stayed in your hometown and married your high school sweetheart. Grandma and grandpa are hundreds to thousands of miles away, so the new parents are left with the prospect of totally ditching their careers, raising their child with no help, or getting familial help such as daycare-which is unpleasant with worse bonding opportunities as well as costing a ton of money. I see this plenty in my personal life. The last two generations of my family all lived in northern NJ doing random jobs. Now me and my cousins are scattered up and down the entirety of the eastern seaboard. If society was serious about turning this around the best tool would probably be remote work but we've all seen how companies feel about that.

TL:DR we sleep in the bed we allow capitalism to make for us.

"Yeah, officer, but those guys are doing it, too!"

Hardly a productive or responsible response. The fact remains. We are outspending natural resources at an exponentially destructive rate and at bottom it is brcause of overpopulation of the most invasive species: us! Sound overdramatised, Chicken Little-ish? You wait for the other guy to straighten up snd fly right and its both/all just waiting. Meantime the waste an destruction continues and deepens and broadens. If not now, when; if not us, who? Its the kind of stalemate that ends up with all parties losing--everything.

nothing was said about Zero babies!

Deep-seated

nah, not biting. no purposefully celibate person would think an incel comment was talking about them. and they would be running to defend women called cat ladies.

worse, they would grasp that in that context incel is not some equivalent slur because my experience self-identified incels are precisely the people who would make these weird "owe me sex" and "population fear" arguments.

it's kind of like saying i am slurring someone as a neo-nazi who is in fact fairly fascist in thought and an antisemite. at that point it's lame, pedantic, and false moral equivalence to rush to lecture about the precision of neonazi when it's close enough, even if technically there is some other more precise term.

and you're not making the world more moral with this. heck, decent odds you're just trolling to run interference for the incel arguments.

there is a lot of weird stuff emanating from OH republicans right now. it's not just childless women should have less of a vote. childhood friend of mine from there wants voting limited to property holders.

Tell us you are a female incel without telling us you are a female incel.