If it isn't PEDS, what were the reasons for the incredible performances in Paris?

Hocker had always won supershoes from 2021 to 2024 but nothing like 3 seconds improvement after 2 rounds and 3 days, and, decelerating and re-accelerating in the final 100m, you feeling me????? So it's clearly not just the shoes since the shoes doesn't seem to be the most immediate susceptibility or precursor to his astonishing victory over would-be clean winner Josh KERR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Correct darling!!!! We are both astonished at how ignorant these other LRC folks on LRC are compared to both of our combined total of 100+ years of experience and expertise in areas of sport, doping, RF, RF Physics.

The OP’s question was directed at people who believe the performances were clean.

Great insight darling!!! I never heard of a negative split in the 800m at the elite senior level!!!! I have never seen one at kiddo elementary, middle school or high school level either. It's just the way the event is, there is simply no space and no time to run a negative split in the 800m, just as you don't do the same for a 400m race!!!!

And it also can't be due to reasons of 'great training' that a negative split is ran in the 800m. All training is futile and leads to very negligible differences from one athlete to another. How else do you explain Jim Ryun running 3:32 in the 60s on a cinder track and on repulsive shoes while an athlete today runs the same time with otherwise 1000 times more advantage in terms of shoes, track surfaces and 'better training'????? What is the invisible equalizer here???? How come with better shoes, track surface and 'training' an athlete today is still running only 3:30-3:32 for the 1500m??????

It's quite clear isn't it sir????? The answer is ANTHROPOGENIC RFs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthropogenic RFs equalized and leveled out whatever the benefits supershoes, track surfaces and 'better training' gave today's athletes so that there would be no difference in the high performance across these 2 generations of athletes.

The laws of RF Physics (second law of thermodynamics ala ENTROPY) says that entropy of the universe increases in space and time which means for every degradation of the universe (environment) the law of conservation of energy demands that mankind find a solution to this degradation so as to break even or equalize out at zero again, and again, and again!!!!!!!

So what we see is mankind trying harder and harder to invent new gimmicks to keep performance results constant at equilibrium in space and time as the universe degrades in space and time, and so the new shoes, new track surfaces, 'new training' (fallacy!) just to run the same darn 3:32 1500m PB in 2024 that Jim Ryun easily ran on a cinder track and very slow shoes in 1960.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You were so PITHY I just laughed so hard at the ignorance of the OP and the rest of LRC dear darling!!!!!!!!

Yes the USA has no history, not even under Alberto Salazar or Galen Rupp, of absolutely dominating SPRINT FINISHES in the final 400, final 300m, final 200m, final 100m in all middle and long distance events from 800m, 1500m, 5000m 3000m steeple, 10000m. Seeing Fisher sprint 26.2 seconds in the final 200m of the 5000m just made me wanna jump off a cliff you feeling me???? It's just so wrong and unlawful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How could a tired Fisher from the 10000m be outsprinting the 5000m world leader Hagos Gebrhiwet in 12:36 or a young and naturally strong East African Jacob Krop sired from a rural Kenyan farm amongst RF-free surroundings compared to Fisher's much more irradiated beginnings??????? You feeling me sir???????? Even East African legends Joshua Cheptegei and Kiplimo couldn't even start the 5k and pulled out but Fisher who is nowhere as legendary or talented as these 2 could not feel as much effects in the 10k and even started the 5k and even sprinted an unholy 26.2s to beat a fresh legged batch of Kenyan and Ethiopian clean athletes in Jacob Krop and Hagos????? And nearly beat a fresh legged Ronald Kwemoi a former 1500m legend from the Asbel Kiprop era???

Same argument for Hocker, how could he be decelerating and accelerating in the final 100m of the 1500m like it was ran at 3:50 1500m pace when Centro, another doper, won Rio Olympic gold????? It certainly didn't look like Hocker was running a 3:27 race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol "RF Physics"

it's like letsrun own version of flat-earthers

Couldn't possibly be far simpler things like forever-chemicals now in all the rainwater and freshwater in the USA, so much so that it even is now found in all of mother's milk given to their babies

Or the fact the USA has leaded fuel still in use at every airport in every propeller aircraft being sprayed all around as they takeoff and land that is known to cause growth problems.

Nah that's too easy, go for that "RF energy"

Wow this place can be hilarious.

Nah, you are too simple-minded and innocent sir!!!!! How long have you been around high performance distance sport compared to me, Armstrong and Coevett sir????

I have been around since 1990!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was here when the Golden League Meets started or when Haile Gebrselassie ran his first XC junior race in Boston USA in 1992. I have seen it all in the men's distance. I have read all the journal entries, all the news reports, seen all the patterns and all the trends like clockwork!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With so much expertise and experience on my side when it comes to men's distance sport, and how my eyes daily interact with the biomechanical movement patterns of all the elite runners in the world for 40 years, is it any surprise that I accidentally got myself into very good position to KNOW AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING????????? Including know and understand what, how, why, where, what of doping and dopers!!!!!!!

I would know if 'they were very good runners who outsmarted competition'!!!!!!!!!

I would know how 'OUTSMARTED' friggin looks like sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would know legitimately 'VERY GOOD RUNNERS' sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it doesn't look like Hocker, Fisher, Bryce, Rooks, Nuguse, Kessler at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It looks like Josh KERR YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jakob Ingebrigtsen also YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that Jakob lost the race and went as far down as 4th works strongly in his favor as a clean runner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that Hocker slowed and accelerated in the final 100m like it was a 3:50 1500m jog festival works against his favor as a clean runner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's hard to teach you to have my nous and skills, either you have it, know it or don't have it and don't know it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It helps to be an RF Physicist like me or dabbling in highly analytical and mind-breaking subjects like Physics because the comprehensive thinking skills learnt in this subject greatly advantage you when it comes to finding truth in every other aspect of life including in distance sport.

Saying you know everything doesn't make it true. I tend to think everyone at the top is suspicious, primarily because of human nature and my observation of the last 50 years. Countless doping stories in all sports, all countries. There was literally an accusation in the chess world that a grand master may have used a vibrating butt plug to be singled there as an important move to be made. Athletes used cocaine eye drops and strychnine at the first Tour de Frances.

Using that logic, everyone at the top has to be suspicious. There have been busts in every sport, do you believe 100% dopers through out time have been caught? If not, then top performances must have some doped times in them. I would surmise that the harder the time, the more likely.

I'm not a flat-earther sir!!!!!!!! I'm an RF-earther!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dabble in RF matters. I consult about RF matters with folks all over the world!!!! Call me an Xpert will you!!!!!!

But let me applaud you about one of your correctly made points about mother's milk being tainted with poison chemicals because a few years ago I read a guardian article of how breast milk had 50 percent more microplastics than in 1960 and we all know microplastics are nervous system poisons aka NEUROTOXIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Makes your babies develop slower, poorer and ultimately if he wants to be a high performance distance runner run slower as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's why you find Jim Ryun in 1960 running much faster than 2024 athletes in the 1500m/mile with bad shoes and bad track surfaces (cinder) because his mother's breast milk had also far less neuro-toxic microplastics and thus had more available functional nerve axons to fire his muscle fibers to run faster hence run more efficiently if there is more available axons to power your body forward!!!!!!!

The lack of microplastics and other chemical pollutants in breast milk in 1960s came as one with also far less anthropogenic RFs in the surrounding environment of Jim Ryun's residence, training grounds and general suburban district in 1960s, you feeling me sir????

The earth was a far more hospitable place for biological high performance distance output in 1960s than in 2024, which is also the same for every other human productive output apart from high performance distance. The logic applies across the board in TOTAL manner you feeling me sir?????

WOOHOO!!!!! That's so PITHY from you darling!!!!! I totally am enlightened by you Armstrong!!!!! You made me wake up strong with 'the US dominated events it had previously struggled to medal in'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the 1500m, 3000m steeplechase, and to some extent 5000m and 10000m with that fishy Fisher!!!!

A lot of folks don't like to think they've been bamboozled their entire lives. The sad fact is those most likely to understand "how the world works", are generally the ones taking advantage of you, both money and thought.

Point well taken sir, but I have nothing to bamboozle about to you here. Google anthropogenic RF harm, RF injury, RF damage long term, RF nervous system poison, EMF corruption at government level, EMF lies told by telecommunications industry and BIG TECH, Frank Clegg Microsoft CEO Canada on EMF death.

My reputation is built solely on RF and that's my rice bowl and what I will be ultimately remembered for on LRC. I have no reason to spend this much time on LRC providing RF humanitarian knowledge and understanding to you if I were bamboozling you!!!!

You should check my impeccable and feathered history of RF on LRC with Robert or the mods. They know I don't speak nonsense or deception with regards to RF, and, RF and high performance distance.

Saying I know everything doesn't make it true, but you saying you don't know anything also doesn't make it true that you don't know anything for real sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to measure me this way, you inadvertently measure yourself the same way in reverse direction.

Then I will ask you back if you not knowing anything is you being stupid, retarded, dumb for then how else can it be true that you do not know anything????????????????????

It's therefore more advantageous to human consciousness and existence to be true that 'I know everything' than 'I don't know anything', you feeling me sir??????

Asking to not know anything is passive and asking for one's own doom while asking to know everything is pro-active and asking for one's immortality!!!!!!

Otherwise what do you want to see for it to be true to you???? Failed drugs test?????? Come on bruh!!!!!!!!!!! Get over such fantasies, there will never be a failed drugs test ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's better that I say it then for a failed drugs test that will never come to say it!!!!

Only for track runners.

The Marathoners had to run up a mountain

The bike TT was in a river of rain

The triathlon swimming was carried out in a ripping current

Yes there was some improvement and quality times. But look at the men's 5,000 time -- would not have won the NCAA title. Sometimes pacing and people willing to risk it is all that it takes for great races and great times.

Bad post.

We didn't see otherwordly performances in the throws and jumps.

We didn't see otherworldly performances in sprinting.

We didn't see otherworldly performances in other endurance sports, like swimming.

As the OP said, this is a mid-distance phenomenon.

Gullible zealotry wanting for evidence -- case in point. The consequence of your misplaced trust is self-delusion.

Hocker is clean and it’s killing you. Lol. He crushed the big mouth in the stretch.

Kamala Harris resurrecting USA track and field!