Katelyn tuohy racing again

I agree with you. But he said sub 15:30 would be encouraging. He didn't say that she can't or won't do it. I think she will be pleased with 15:25.

Weather will be a little cooler than it was a month ago, so that will help.

Possibly being in 15:30 shape, wouldn’t make her much of a pacer, and she certainly doesn’t need the money.

She ran one 5000m in high school, started college recovering from surgery, and has typically been in more tactical races. When she ran 15:03 she was wearing out and said her training was going badly. So assuming her training is going well and she is healthy, it would be interesting to see where she is fitness wise.

Saying she's only broken 15:30 5x is one of those statements that is both true and incredibly misleading. It implies that the mark is a barrier that she legitimately struggles to break. When the truth is that she just hasn't run many time trial/fast 5k's. Since she broke out collegiately at indoor nationals in 2022 the only 5k's she has failed to break 15:30 are a random Wake Forest meet where she was pacing teammates 90 minutes after running a 4:08 and championship races where outside of the 2024 trials she has had a great result even when not running a fast time. Unless you want to hold a race like the 2023 16:09 5k Indoor title against her even though she dominated the field.

The more I think about it running this 1500 makes little sense. She can't possibly be in top 1500 form at this time so she would likely finish way back in this field. And if she wanted to run a 1500 (or mile) why travel to LA when the Sir Walter mile in Raleigh is coming up in 2 weeks (and in which she is not entered as far as I know).

The OT 5000m final, was not a good scenario to run fast for 2nd-tier runners. There were actually some 15:10-15:20 runners that finished behind her. Her having been in at least 15:20 shape, is not out of the question.

BTW, I couldn’t find any results for the trials that contained splits.

Agreed. While Touhy's 5 k heat at the trials was very slow, the last third or so was pretty fast. Given where she was in her training, I expect that fast finish impacted her 4 days later in the finals. Put another way, it is not unreasonable to think that Touhy could have been in 15:20 shape at the trials for a single 5k under better weather conditions. If so, a month later, it is not unreasonable to expect something faster than 15:20 this weekend as the weather is supposed to be cooler than the trials. Looking forward, time will tell but there is no reason to think that Touhy will not ultimately get back to her previous level of fitness, which was 15:03. Though hopefully she will surpass that at some point. In any event, it will be interesting to see another data point - assuming she runs the 5k and not the 1,500.

How about 15:15. Over or under?

Funny you should post that. I was thinking a 15:15 is likely what she will run.

I will take the under - but not by much

Do you mean the 5000? I don’t see her on the entry list of the 1500s (unless I’m missing something)

well, as was pointed out to me, she appears on the list of starters on the timing site. But still not on the Sound Running site.

rbtrackfan wrote:
I will take the under - but not by much

15:15 is a pretty good time. I will take the over just to play devils advocate.

Under… ‘Cause I’m a believer.

According to the timing site Sam Bush is pacing men 5k. This will be something if it is accurate.

lol I bet she paces the W 5000...but if she could even run 2500 at 13:20 pace that would be something, wouldn't it! Probably worth a contract with someone lol.

Haha, yeah there is certainly no way Sam Bush (from NC State), is pacing the MEN’S 5,000m.

I'll take under 14:50... for this winter.