Could he have jumped in a race this week, even one his coach set up with pacers and went for a qualifying time? The steepler did it.
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dfafdasf wrote:
Could he have jumped in a race this week, even one his coach set up with pacers and went for a qualifying time? The steepler did it.
Qualification period ends at 30 june
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terminology wrote:
"5K" not not an Olympic event, but 5000 meters is.
Thanks. Super helpful. Keep posting, this board really needs your inane anonymous contributions.
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Tagajaiapp800 wrote:
Trying to understand here wrote:
But the 4th runner of every country is scratched from the points quota, right? Only 3 count. So how can an alternate get in on points?
They would have the standard.
I’m asking specifically about alternates who don’t have the standard and would get in on points. Or if that’s possible
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Running UberNerd wrote:
rojo wrote:
This post should not have been deleted by a volunteer moderator. I'm sure it was deleted as the moderator viewed it incorrectly as being racist. In fact, it was quite clever. The poster was correctly pointing out that neither Fisher (a white man) or Nur (a black man) were born in the US. The post was race neutral.
It’s just Xenophobic instead of racist.
Rojo why would you use the word “clever”…. stop adding to the nonsense of others who post non clever but rather inflammatory statements. Fisher was born in Canada. His mother is a US citizen which means he is automatically a US citizen. Many US citizens are born abroad.
why state “white man” black man” my gosh.Think of everyone being part of the human race having different ethnicities.
Posts about this garbage, if Grant reads them and I hope he doesn’t, might just cause him to think about running for Canada which happens to be a much more accepting country and he is also a citizen of.
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terminology wrote:
5000 meters team should be Parker Wolfe, Graham Blanks, and Dylan Jacobs, so that there are three Americans.
Uh huh...clearly just throwing away Fisher to try to hide your desire to throw away Nur...
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Ajax wrote:
terminology wrote:
5000 meters team should be Parker Wolfe, Graham Blanks, and Dylan Jacobs, so that there are three Americans.
Uh huh...clearly just throwing away Fisher to try to hide your desire to throw away Nur...
Rather*, I should say try to hide the real reason you desire to throw away Nur.
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try to keep up with the rules wrote:
coach kn wrote:
Personally I think wolfe. If you medal at the trials, you should be going, and since blanks failed to medal, he shouldnt go.
This very thread explains repeatedly why it isn't as simple as this. Because USATF honors the Trials order of finish,USATF will send Wolfe if we're able to, but he's on the cusp of being eligible or not by ranking, so if after scratches he still isn't high enough in the rankings to qualify, we literally cannot send him. Then we go back down the Trials finish order, and Blanks is next, and he has the auto standard so we send him instead. It's not USATF's choice, in effect the "decision" will be made by other nations scratching or not scratching athletes ahead of Wolfe.
After filtering through four pages of inconsequential nonsense, above two sentences from post #26 succinctly answers the Wolfe vs Blanks question posed by the OP.
There were five US distance teams whose compositions were initially unknown:
We now (7/6) know:
-- Mantz-Murphy-Korir comprise the US men's Marathon team
-- Rooks-Wilkinson-Corrigan comprise the US men's Steeplechase team
-- Cranny-Schweizer-Morgan comprise the US women's 5000 team
-- Kelati-Valby-Schweizer comprise the US women's 10,000 team
Thus, the only remaining question is who -- Wolfe or Blanks -- will accompany Fisher and Nur on the men's 5000 team.
As poster #26 stated above, declarations and scratches submitted to World Athletics following conclusion of races on the June 30th closing of the Paris Olympic qualifying window will determine who makes the team.
And that -- if WA follows it's own stated timeline -- we will know on July 7th; i.e., within a few hours.
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Runnerrrrr wrote:
By that logic, the only "Americans" are the Native Americans (Indians/First Nations). most of us on this forum - whether white, black, Asian, etc. - shouldn't be allowed to compete for this country either!
At what point does someone become American enough?
Edit: Abdi is legally an American citizen, that's good enough for me.
But you are not using logic. The natives were not Americans because the country of America did not exist until around, oh, 1776. So even if people inhabited the land, it was not the United States of America. However, if you are a legal citizen, then of course you should be treated the same as an American citizen who was born in the United States of America.
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Fan Out West Redux wrote:
try to keep up with the rules wrote:
This very thread explains repeatedly why it isn't as simple as this. Because USATF honors the Trials order of finish,USATF will send Wolfe if we're able to, but he's on the cusp of being eligible or not by ranking, so if after scratches he still isn't high enough in the rankings to qualify, we literally cannot send him. Then we go back down the Trials finish order, and Blanks is next, and he has the auto standard so we send him instead. It's not USATF's choice, in effect the "decision" will be made by other nations scratching or not scratching athletes ahead of Wolfe.
After filtering through four pages of inconsequential nonsense, above two sentences from post #26 succinctly answers the Wolfe vs Blanks question posed by the OP.
There were five US distance teams whose compositions were initially unknown:
We now (7/6) know:
-- Mantz-Murphy-Korir comprise the US men's Marathon team
-- Rooks-Wilkinson-Corrigan comprise the US men's Steeplechase team
-- Cranny-Schweizer-Morgan comprise the US women's 5000 team
-- Kelati-Valby-Schweizer comprise the US women's 10,000 team
Thus, the only remaining question is who -- Wolfe or Blanks -- will accompany Fisher and Nur on the men's 5000 team.
As poster #26 stated above, declarations and scratches submitted to World Athletics following conclusion of races on the June 30th closing of the Paris Olympic qualifying window will determine who makes the team.
And that -- if WA follows it's own stated timeline -- we will know on July 7th; i.e., within a few hours.
You basically added zero new information to this discussion, so get off the soapbox
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Fan Out West Redux wrote:
try to keep up with the rules wrote:
This very thread explains repeatedly why it isn't as simple as this. Because USATF honors the Trials order of finish,USATF will send Wolfe if we're able to, but he's on the cusp of being eligible or not by ranking, so if after scratches he still isn't high enough in the rankings to qualify, we literally cannot send him. Then we go back down the Trials finish order, and Blanks is next, and he has the auto standard so we send him instead. It's not USATF's choice, in effect the "decision" will be made by other nations scratching or not scratching athletes ahead of Wolfe.
After filtering through four pages of inconsequential nonsense, above two sentences from post #26 succinctly answers the Wolfe vs Blanks question posed by the OP.
There were five US distance teams whose compositions were initially unknown:
We now (7/6) know:
-- Mantz-Murphy-Korir comprise the US men's Marathon team
-- Rooks-Wilkinson-Corrigan comprise the US men's Steeplechase team
-- Cranny-Schweizer-Morgan comprise the US women's 5000 team
-- Kelati-Valby-Schweizer comprise the US women's 10,000 team
Thus, the only remaining question is who -- Wolfe or Blanks -- will accompany Fisher and Nur on the men's 5000 team.
As poster #26 stated above, declarations and scratches submitted to World Athletics following conclusion of races on the June 30th closing of the Paris Olympic qualifying window will determine who makes the team.
And that -- if WA follows it's own stated timeline -- we will know on July 7th; i.e., within a few hours.
And we now have the confirmation
I hope hat Wolfe makes it in 2028 (for his sake)
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cvkjbkvk b wrote:
Fan Out West Redux wrote:
After filtering through four pages of inconsequential nonsense, above two sentences from post #26 succinctly answers the Wolfe vs Blanks question posed by the OP.
There were five US distance teams whose compositions were initially unknown:
We now (7/6) know:
-- Mantz-Murphy-Korir comprise the US men's Marathon team
-- Rooks-Wilkinson-Corrigan comprise the US men's Steeplechase team
-- Cranny-Schweizer-Morgan comprise the US women's 5000 team
-- Kelati-Valby-Schweizer comprise the US women's 10,000 team
Thus, the only remaining question is who -- Wolfe or Blanks -- will accompany Fisher and Nur on the men's 5000 team.
As poster #26 stated above, declarations and scratches submitted to World Athletics following conclusion of races on the June 30th closing of the Paris Olympic qualifying window will determine who makes the team.
And that -- if WA follows it's own stated timeline -- we will know on July 7th; i.e., within a few hours.
And we now have the confirmation
I hope hat Wolfe makes it in 2028 (for his sake)
Indeed, Wolfe's name is not in the top 42.
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cvkjbkvk b wrote:
smrtalec33 wrote:
Finalized July 7 (Sun) and announced by USATF on July 8 (Mon)
It must be weird for both of them. I assume that both did a track workout yesterday or today, not knowing if their season is over or not. Whoever does not qualify will surely shut it down as soon as they know.
However, if Wolfe qualifies, then Blanks is the alternate. But what are the odds that you actually go as the alternate. Does he keep training just in case?
If Blanks qualifies, then McGorty is the alternate. McGorty will be racing in Europe anyway, I am sure, so he could step in easily.
If Wolfe does not get it, he shouldn't immediately shut it down.
He should try to run at least one fast race (given his current form) so he has the standard for next year's world championships! Usually July of the previous year is in the qualifying window.
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cvkjbkvk b wrote:
And we now have the confirmation
I hope that Wolfe makes it in 2028 (for his sake)
Yep.
42nd and last on the WA points ranking is 1210. Wolfe ended up with 1200.
So, knock out McGorty at #24 and slot in Blanks at #28 . . . ahead of Jakob at #34:
With another month of training, Wolfe should be able to get himself back in the 13:03 shape he showed in December.
However, last year's heat winners were 13:32 & 13:35 with 8th place finishers less than a second behind in both races, so hope Graham comes to Paris with some semblance of a kick.
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Looks like Wildschutt, Beamish, and Lobalu were the 3 whose spots were declined. Parker Wolfe needed 1 more declined spot
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So this is officially announced tomorrow?
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Can we agree this is the lamest and most drawn out (and probably completely unknown to the NARP public) process for choosing an Olympic team?
You know what would be cool? 1 meet every 4 years in the USA where the top 3 in each event go to the Olympics.
NARPs that watched the trials and actually got invested are going to be so focused when 4th place runners from the trials show up at the Olympics ready to race.
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Tagajaiapp800 wrote:
So this is officially announced tomorrow?
Believe there were a couple or more field events where other nations' declaration/scratches affected US team compositions.
Thus, USATF may not issue its full-team press release until later today (7/7) or tomorrow.
However, with WA's updated Road to Paris database now revealed, one only needs to review each event to figure out Team USA.
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Fan Out West Redux wrote:
Yep.
42nd and last on the WA points ranking is 1210. Wolfe ended up with 1200.
So, knock out McGorty at #24 and slot in Blanks at #28 . . . ahead of Jakob at #34:
With another month of training, Blanks should be able to get himself back in the 13:03 shape he showed in December.
However, last year's heat winners were 13:32 & 13:35 with 8th place finishers less than a second behind in both races, so hope Graham comes to Paris with some semblance of a kick.
Correction above.
Chavez & Gault broke the news on Valby ditching the 5000 . . . but got scooped on this one.
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waitforit wrote:
I had been gutted for Parker Wolfe, but the thread has been able to convince me that he made some choices during the year that essentially kept him out of the Olympics. It kind of sucks since in a slow tactical race, he probably could do well.
Idk I'm still pretty sad for him. Dude ran an absolutely insane trials race and yet the guy he beat made the team over him. Obviously it was fair for him to be left of the team, given the selection process, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck for him. This week is going to be rough for him, I bet.
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