IDK about his olympic chances but last night took me from barely knowing who he was to being a fan of the dude.
That was some old school grit and determination. With 800 left I thought he'd made a great showing and would fade. That last 800 ended up being the most impressive part of his race.
Dude has a set of nuts on him and it was fun to watch.
Even if it's a tough ask to run another 5k in less than a week, I think WA should mandate that all selection meets be finished at least one week before the cutoff date. If they're setting up a system that brings back the old right to chase a standard, it should be available for everybody. Both Corrigan and Wolfe made shock results that put them theoretically in contention for Paris, but only one got to take the shot?
Maybe this is something that only really impacts the big countries like the US or the countries with massive depth in certain events like Kenya or Ethiopia, but if the system allows for chasing, it should allow everyone to chase.
Why should WA mandate that? The US knew when the cutoff date was and could have held its trials a week earlier if it wanted to.
Who thought this system was a good idea lmao no one knows what's going on.
Yeah, I know it's for National Championships, but everyone cheering and going nuts when an Olympic standard is nowhere in sight seems a bit odd. Weird that athletes and their coaches can't come up with a plan before to either get the standard or weigh in world ranking points. Then they come into the Trials needing the standard and don't get near it....
I admit I don't like that the window ends right after the Trials meet. It creates a bit of unfairness based on whether your final was earlier in the meet or later. For a surprise top-3 person that can make a big difference. James Corrigan was a surprise third placer in the steeplechase, and because the final was early on he had time to set up a later race and chase the standard/ranking/whatever he needed. He successfully hit the standard and now he's going to Paris. Wolfe should have the same opportunity to take one shot at improving his ranking/hitting the standard/or whatever could get him in, but he doesn't have that chance because his final was on the last day of the Trials. Even if it's a tough ask to run another 5k in less than a week, I think WA should mandate that all selection meets be finished at least one week before the cutoff date. If they're setting up a system that brings back the old right to chase a standard, it should be available for everybody. Both Corrigan and Wolfe made shock results that put them theoretically in contention for Paris, but only one got to take the shot?
Maybe this is something that only really impacts the big countries like the US or the countries with massive depth in certain events like Kenya or Ethiopia, but if the system allows for chasing, it should allow everyone to chase.
Everyone had to do it by this weekend. Canada has no depth, but Jazz Shukla got her standard (ran 1.58, with standard of 1.59.3) in the 800m by basically running solo to do it on Saturday night.
Wolfe had Woody go hard hard in the middle to get the pace faster - but Wolfe didn't go with him , even though he needed the standard. Everyone knew that the deadline was this weekend - should have got in a race weeks ago to be sure. Now that the NCAA doesn't accumulate a lot of points is unfortunate, but it is as it is - do BUCS matter more or less than NCAA? it too is a College championship. Feel bad for the guy as he raced super well, but this was known to everyone. I coached a kid last year who was so focused on getting ranking points that it destroyed him, and he still hasn't recovered - get the frikkin standard in time and be done with it. Relying on ranking has a lot of its own associated problems.
Anyone with a clue can see that he is in 12:55 shape ....
Nothing against Wolfe's performance, but I don't get comments like this. If he was in 12:55 shape, why didn't he run that? Your time is your time. You're not in 12:55 shape until you actually run 12:55.
Anyone with a clue can see that he is in 12:55 shape ....
Nothing against Wolfe's performance, but I don't get comments like this. If he was in 12:55 shape, why didn't he run that? Your time is your time. You're not in 12:55 shape until you actually run 12:55.
This is letsrun. Most of the threads and reasoning is built off of speculation.
So Wolfe is #46 but that moves to #45 as Blanks is one of the 3 guys ahead of him. So if 3 guys don't enter, he's in.
Wildschut apparently is 1.
Some are saying Geordie Beamish. But if I'm Beamish, I'd also enter the 5000 as insurance against the steeple. If Beamish falls or somehow doesn't make the steeple final, wouldn't he want to be in the 5000 (the 5000 1st round is run the morning of the steeple final)?
Mechaal 1500/5000 is another guy but again, why wouldn't he just also enter the 5000 - which he ran at Euros - even if he's focused on the 1500 just to see if he wants to do it. depending on how the 1500 goes
The only other thing I could thing of is if the Brits for some reason don't enter 3 even though they have 4 or even 5 that could go.
Patrick Devers is in as he has the standard and was 2nd at their Trials. Sam Atkin has the standard but didn't race the British Trials but was given a medical exemption to skip due to gastroenteritis. George Mills has the standard but raced the 1500 but wants to double. Rowe has the standard and was 3rd at the Trials.
Plus James West won the Trials (he also won last year). He doesn't have the standard but is right ahead of Wolfe in the rankings. I think the Brits will send 3.
The more I look into this I think Blanks will end up going over Wolfe.
Anyone with a clue can see that he is in 12:55 shape ....
Nothing against Wolfe's performance, but I don't get comments like this. If he was in 12:55 shape, why didn't he run that? Your time is your time. You're not in 12:55 shape until you actually run 12:55.
Well, it’s hard to run that fast in a tactical, hot finals race. The dudes who finished right in front of him & some behind him have all easily broken 13, so it stands to reason that he could too, given an opportunity. My biggest gripe w the rankings system is these guys should be given another two weeks to get the qualifier. Otherwise, why even have the trials? So someone who doesn’t finish top 3 can still go to Paris? What is the point of the trials then?
I just wanted to reflect on how crazy the college distance scene has been this year. First Graham Blanks comes onto to the scene and dominates xc and that first indoor race right after. Then he's injured for the real indoor season and Nico Young rises up, nabbing indoor titles and NCAA records. Then it's outdoor time and Parker Wolfe takes the title and finished 3rd at the trials. It's a shame there's no way to have all three of them in Paris but, whoever goes, it has been a crazy year to follow college distance guys. I started the year only really knowing Nico of the three and not thinking he would reach the top level and make the Olympics. Now all three have legit arguments to be on the team this year and the future for American 5k/10k is looking super bright!
I just wanted to reflect on how crazy the college distance scene has been this year. First Graham Blanks comes onto to the scene and dominates xc and that first indoor race right after. Then he's injured for the real indoor season and Nico Young rises up, nabbing indoor titles and NCAA records. Then it's outdoor time and Parker Wolfe takes the title and finished 3rd at the trials. It's a shame there's no way to have all three of them in Paris but, whoever goes, it has been a crazy year to follow college distance guys. I started the year only really knowing Nico of the three and not thinking he would reach the top level and make the Olympics. Now all three have legit arguments to be on the team this year and the future for American 5k/10k is looking super bright!
Blanks is the one who may very well be peaking at just the right time and would be our best representative at the actual games, true. But Nico and Wolfe earned their spots with top three. Wolfe just needs one more opportunity to shave 5+ seconds. But he’s not going to get it.
I just wanted to reflect on how crazy the college distance scene has been this year. First Graham Blanks comes onto to the scene and dominates xc and that first indoor race right after. Then he's injured for the real indoor season and Nico Young rises up, nabbing indoor titles and NCAA records. Then it's outdoor time and Parker Wolfe takes the title and finished 3rd at the trials. It's a shame there's no way to have all three of them in Paris but, whoever goes, it has been a crazy year to follow college distance guys. I started the year only really knowing Nico of the three and not thinking he would reach the top level and make the Olympics. Now all three have legit arguments to be on the team this year and the future for American 5k/10k is looking super bright!
Blanks is the one who may very well be peaking at just the right time and would be our best representative at the actual games, true. But Nico and Wolfe earned their spots with top three. Wolfe just needs one more opportunity to shave 5+ seconds. But he’s not going to get it.
Having said that though, if Blanks truly is the only one standing in Wolfe’s way, then he should drop and give Wolfe the spot. In my opinion. If that’s truly how it plays out…
Rumor is Blanks could take that 3rd spot, but I dont see that as a good choice. He hasnt even touched the standard since december, and there are numerous other athletes with the standard as well, so I dont know why he is even in the conversation. Just send Wolfe, he earned it. If the others wanted it bad enough, they wouldve beat wolfe.
Nothing against Wolfe's performance, but I don't get comments like this. If he was in 12:55 shape, why didn't he run that? Your time is your time. You're not in 12:55 shape until you actually run 12:55.
Well simply put, he didn't run it outdoors because he is an NCAA athlete. His opportunity to run fast was at the Wake Forest Invitational, which likely had limited to no pacers or competition. Outside of that his task was to score maximum points for his school at ACCs and NCAAs, which he did. The current flaw in the system is the lack of reallocation of spots. The only "problem" with it is it would lower the incentive of earning a spot that could go to someone else. I'd rather deal with that problem than the current one.
Anyone who ran 13:12 or better in those conditions with that pacing is ready to run the standard in good conditions. It's a shame that our distance collegians in the past didn't have good chances to hit the standard prior to Trials, though that is not as much the case anymore.
Blanks is the one who may very well be peaking at just the right time and would be our best representative at the actual games, true. But Nico and Wolfe earned their spots with top three. Wolfe just needs one more opportunity to shave 5+ seconds. But he’s not going to get it.
Having said that though, if Blanks truly is the only one standing in Wolfe’s way, then he should drop and give Wolfe the spot. In my opinion. If that’s truly how it plays out…
Would NEVER happen. You are talking about elite runners. These guys don’t think they are inferior to anyone. If you don’t have that mindset you are not elite.
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