This job will get a ton of attention from top coaches. It may be one of the few programs with which you can take on NAU consistently. Altitude, great trails...it is expensive, but you can live nearby for somewhat normal costs. What coaches/athletes have a past connection to CU?
Ritz and Vig on the high level coaching side stand out.
Would be a step down for Ritz.
Amen. On is building around him here in North America. They should invest into more infrastructure around him but he would be insane to take a college job, especially after watching what happened to his coach.
It’s just a data point. People act like getting on a scale or measuring body composition is an implicit judgement or an act of aggression. The truth is that’s a projection stemming from self-esteem issues already existing in the athlete. If the athlete isn’t mentally stable enough to rationally evaluate and utilize information that directly impacts performance, they aren’t up to the job of elite-level competition.
NCAA is not elite-level competition. A small minority get to and/or move on to the elite level.
Colorado distance is (or should be) elite-level. Can’t have it both ways. Can’t aspire to the the highest potential performance and also require people to pretend that weight and body composition aren’t a factor. No one (who is reasonable) is saying that its the only data point that matters, but it is one of them. Too many people act like acknowledging this reality means that the coach is hyper-focused on only that thing and is terrorizing the athlete through those metrics. A good coach and a successful athlete know how to use this info without creating bad health outcomes.
Rumor is Wetmore/Burroughs to be let go at CU? Who get this gig?
Update: It's true. Runner's World has the story.
Here's the statement Colorado AD Rick George provided to Runner's World:
“In over 30 years, Mark Wetmore has built one of the country’s premier cross country programs and is an institution within the cross country and track & field communities. At this point, however, I felt it was time for a new era of leadership for our programs. I wish Mark the best and thank him for his longtime service to CU Athletics.”
The logical choice is somebody already coaching in CO that has crushed it at the college level at AF and knows how to coach at altitude. Give Ryan Cole a chance to bring in the best recruits and he will bring multiple national championship back to Boulder.
If you guys want to keep this BoCo, the high school guys, Henriques/Christensen, are a better choice. Before you think this is silliness, think about how many college coaches they must know already, and the work they have already done getting their athletes recruited. Or how they develop AND attract talent to their program. Would it be a hard stretch to think this is a better option than Bossy-pants, Simpson, The Hunters, etc..? I would think that with Henriques being a football playing CU alum (from when the team was good) would make him more attractive to the new boss, Prime.
How long until the pro's flame out at the college level? No way they could or want to navigate the NCAA rule set, or not be in charge, 'cause, the track coach at a college is not in charge of much.
Rumor is Wetmore/Burroughs to be let go at CU? Who get this gig?
Update: It's true. Runner's World has the story.
Here's the statement Colorado AD Rick George provided to Runner's World:
“In over 30 years, Mark Wetmore has built one of the country’s premier cross country programs and is an institution within the cross country and track & field communities. At this point, however, I felt it was time for a new era of leadership for our programs. I wish Mark the best and thank him for his longtime service to CU Athletics.”
The logical choice is somebody already coaching in CO that has crushed it at the college level at AF and knows how to coach at altitude. Give Ryan Cole a chance to bring in the best recruits and he will bring multiple national championship back to Boulder.
Ryan Cole? Did you mean Kelly Hart? USAFA? Did you mean CSU?
I remember reading RWTB decades ago lol and thinking he cant say that about some of the comments but obviously it had nothing to do with me. I read the fast women post and read/skimmed a lot of the report. Fastwomen left out many positive things that people said.
However in terms of a lot of the statements in the report I would personally expect to be fired and deserve to be fired if I said a tenth of them. I understand somewhat that HS and college are different to an extent but you can and should be able to get good performance without a lot of this crap. I dont feel like writing an essay about it(that noone would read lol) but one of my pet peeves is when coaches blame the athletes. With this body comp stuff the really bottom line is that if you were doing a better job and recruited better athletes then it would be all good so dont harass the kids because you couldnt get the job done in recruiting.
Also the fact that 68% of athletes reported a stress reaction or stress fracture is troubling to say the least and crazy that after decades it is still happening. The only mitigating factor is maybe maybe its harder to recover at altitude but that should also be accounted for.
I remember reading RWTB decades ago lol and thinking he cant say that about some of the comments but obviously it had nothing to do with me. I read the fast women post and read/skimmed a lot of the report. Fastwomen left out many positive things that people said.
However in terms of a lot of the statements in the report I would personally expect to be fired and deserve to be fired if I said a tenth of them. I understand somewhat that HS and college are different to an extent but you can and should be able to get good performance without a lot of this crap. I dont feel like writing an essay about it(that noone would read lol) but one of my pet peeves is when coaches blame the athletes. With this body comp stuff the really bottom line is that if you were doing a better job and recruited better athletes then it would be all good so dont harass the kids because you couldnt get the job done in recruiting.
Also the fact that 68% of athletes reported a stress reaction or stress fracture is troubling to say the least and crazy that after decades it is still happening. The only mitigating factor is maybe maybe its harder to recover at altitude but that should also be accounted for.
The logical choice is somebody already coaching in CO that has crushed it at the college level at AF and knows how to coach at altitude. Give Ryan Cole a chance to bring in the best recruits and he will bring multiple national championship back to Boulder.
Ryan Cole? Did you mean Kelly Hart? USAFA? Did you mean CSU?
Crazy that you got a thumbs down for this. Have we been so brainwashed to believe weight doesn’t matter? Many things matter and your body comp is definitely one of many things that either allow you to be successful or hurt your chances. Any person trying to be successful is relying on luck if they do not consider their weight/body comp.
It’s just a data point. People act like getting on a scale or measuring body composition is an implicit judgement or an act of aggression. The truth is that’s a projection stemming from self-esteem issues already existing in the athlete. If the athlete isn’t mentally stable enough to rationally evaluate and utilize information that directly impacts performance, they aren’t up to the job of elite-level competition.
I agree, it is a data point. But it should be initiated by the athlete himself or herself. Not required when on a scholarship (or walk-on runner).
I've done the InBody scan myself b/c I was curious about my BF%(not Dexa, which uses a small amt. of radiation), but this is decades after my college running.
Heather Burroughs is the ultimate downfall to the program. Pitting teammates against each other, singling out athletes with perceived higher body fat, snide remarks about dietary choices. It was only a matter of time before it caught with them. I say enjoy the retirement for Wetmore and good riddance to Burroughs.
I agree, it is a data point. But it should be initiated by the athlete himself or herself. Not required when on a scholarship (or walk-on runner).
I've done the InBody scan myself b/c I was curious about my BF%(not Dexa, which uses a small amt. of radiation), but this is decades after my college running.
I meant to say: I don't think being obsessed with BF% in college is healthy. I'm doing it now, but that's my choice (and this is decades after I graduated college, lol).
Taken down by a couple disgruntled runners. Not sure how much longer they intended to stay anyway as CU was getting out recruited on a regular basis - so maybe it was time for a change.
I was under the impression that body composition analysis was a better alternative to caliper tests? Now they can't even do that without worrying who will be negatively impacted by the results.
Brosnan will now need to decide whether he wants to coach at FSU or CU.
It's great if Brosnan decides which one he wants. Unfortunately for him, the employers choosing who they want to hire is what actually matters and it won't be him at either place.
a bod pod is better than a caliper test but its also not necessary which is the issue. Reducing someone down to a number is just such a high risk/low reward thing and unnecessary. You risk your runner developing a bad relationship with food or their health and the reward is what? Athletes need to have a healthy relationship with food to be able to properly fuel their bodies to get the full benefits of their workouts and training. All a number does is make them want to lower that number regardless of whether its actually an issue holding them back or not.
It’s just a data point. People act like getting on a scale or measuring body composition is an implicit judgement or an act of aggression. The truth is that’s a projection stemming from self-esteem issues already existing in the athlete. If the athlete isn’t mentally stable enough to rationally evaluate and utilize information that directly impacts performance, they aren’t up to the job of elite-level competition.
Wow! It certainly sounds like you've got it all figured out. You would make an amazing coach of young women. You should apply!