it is shocking how few people, even on a die hard running website like LR, don't realize that Mu has been hurt the last two months, and that's why she wasn't ready to go. Why she looked mediocre in rds 1 & 2. And why she wasn't 2 meters out in front like she should have been at that point.
PS. she needs to leave Kersee ASAP
They don't see it because she hasn't raced since the WC. Further supports your point.
I love to go after a sacred cow, hopefully with good humor and compassion, but there are a lot of freaks on here reveling in their cruelty and dismissiveness. And I thought guitar players and lawyers were the worst people in the world!
In the aftermath of that race, one of the craziest things is the polar opposite reaction from these boards vs the comments on Instagram posts about the race and YouTube comments. Every comment on social is about the heartbreak for Athing and talking about how unfair it is but LetsRun brought out the confetti and fireworks. I honestly feel bad for Nia Akins because she killed her race and it felt like her whole celebration got crosscut with Athing in tears heading down the tunnel.
I think the difference can be attributed to three things:
the anonymity of this site compared to social media where many people have their real name and/or photo attached to their profile.
There is a longstanding practice of some people here expressing glee when they see someone fail. If a big name loses a race or fails to make a team, it’s only a matter of seconds before a hater creates a “(runner) goes home devastated!” thread. Someone actually had the gall to do that last night Re: Quincy Wilson, who is just a 16-year-old kid.
This site has more people who dreamed of going to the Olympics, never made it, and are still bitter about it. Seeing other people fail makes them temporarily feel better about their own disappointments.
I love to go after a sacred cow, hopefully with good humor and compassion, but there are a lot of freaks on here reveling in their cruelty and dismissiveness. And I thought guitar players and lawyers were the worst people in the world!
proof? I think people are being ultra sensitive to any comments suggesting she's responsible (which she is). Why sugarcoat it?
In the aftermath of that race, one of the craziest things is the polar opposite reaction from these boards vs the comments on Instagram posts about the race and YouTube comments. Every comment on social is about the heartbreak for Athing and talking about how unfair it is but LetsRun brought out the confetti and fireworks. I honestly feel bad for Nia Akins because she killed her race and it felt like her whole celebration got crosscut with Athing in tears heading down the tunnel.
I think the difference can be attributed to three things:
the anonymity of this site compared to social media where many people have their real name and/or photo attached to their profile.
There is a longstanding practice of some people here expressing glee when they see someone fail. If a big name loses a race or fails to make a team, it’s only a matter of seconds before a hater creates a “(runner) goes home devastated!” thread. Someone actually had the gall to do that last night Re: Quincy Wilson, who is just a 16-year-old kid.
This site has more people who dreamed of going to the Olympics, never made it, and are still bitter about it. Seeing other people fail makes them temporarily feel better about their own disappointments.
OR the vast majority of people on social media don't know anything about track and like to follow the herd...
This site has more people who dreamed of going to the Olympics, never made it, and are still bitter about it. Seeing other people fail makes them temporarily feel better about their own disappointments.
It's funny to say anonymous here but perceive social media as not somewhat anonymous or at least differentiating from real life. Having name attached to a comment doesn't deter people from saying things they'd say online but wouldn't say to a person's face. Hiding behind a computer screen gives, regardless of using real name or not, gives people superpowers in hubris, cockiness and stupidity.
I think lots of folks feel really bad for AM but accept the process and understand there are always winners and losers and those are not always as expected. That’s why we have the Trials and run the race. AM is a joy to meet and talk to and see when she is up and happy. Seems like some of that is gone as has been much discussed but none of that matters in the track. You either perform or you don’t. I root for everyone but there are still winners and losers. Opinions on other social media cannot be compared to this Board. We are the extreme on the sport, good and bad, knowledgeable and ignorant, biased and honest. Sorry for AM but so excited for the top 3 from last night. And they were so excited which makes the overall result OK and good no matter the rest.
It's funny to say anonymous here but perceive social media as not somewhat anonymous or at least differentiating from real life. Having name attached to a comment doesn't deter people from saying things they'd say online but wouldn't say to a person's face. Hiding behind a computer screen gives, regardless of using real name or not, gives people superpowers in hubris, cockiness and stupidity.
I agree, there’s plenty of toxicity on social media even when people use their real names and photos. I just think anonymity provides an even higher level of license to be mean than being online while having one’s identity known.
We can think of tiers that make people more or less likely to be cordial. Here’s an attempt, from most likely to be cordial to least likely:
Tier 1: In person, in public, with cameras on; at work; attending a religious ceremony/service
Tier 2: In person, in private
Tier 3: Online, identity known
Tier 4: Online, anonymous
Of course, people can still be awful in Tier 1 scenarios (political rallies, sporting events, angry travelers or retail customers, etc), and people can be kind in Tier 4 (most people here, actually). It’s just a matter of likelihood.
I think the difference can be attributed to three things:
the anonymity of this site compared to social media where many people have their real name and/or photo attached to their profile.
There is a longstanding practice of some people here expressing glee when they see someone fail. If a big name loses a race or fails to make a team, it’s only a matter of seconds before a hater creates a “(runner) goes home devastated!” thread. Someone actually had the gall to do that last night Re: Quincy Wilson, who is just a 16-year-old kid.
This site has more people who dreamed of going to the Olympics, never made it, and are still bitter about it. Seeing other people fail makes them temporarily feel better about their own disappointments.
OR the vast majority of people on social media don't know anything about track and like to follow the herd...
Why do you need to know anything about track to demonstrate a sliver of humanity?
It's funny to say anonymous here but perceive social media as not somewhat anonymous or at least differentiating from real life. Having name attached to a comment doesn't deter people from saying things they'd say online but wouldn't say to a person's face. Hiding behind a computer screen gives, regardless of using real name or not, gives people superpowers in hubris, cockiness and stupidity.
I agree, there’s plenty of toxicity on social media even when people use their real names and photos. I just think anonymity provides an even higher level of license to be mean than being online while having one’s identity known.
We can think of tiers that make people more or less likely to be cordial. Here’s an attempt, from most likely to be cordial to least likely:
Tier 1: In person, in public, with cameras on; at work; attending a religious ceremony/service
Tier 2: In person, in private
Tier 3: Online, identity known
Tier 4: Online, anonymous
Of course, people can still be awful in Tier 1 scenarios (political rallies, sporting events, angry travelers or retail customers, etc), and people can be kind in Tier 4 (most people here, actually). It’s just a matter of likelihood.
Well, this is where the obvious disingenuousness of the Brojos plays into it.
They will tell you that the boards are for everyone, that they do not require registration or any semblance of real-world identity in order to ensure that if someone had to submit a scoop anonymously, they could do so safely.
In reality, it's because they care about page views and ad revenue above all else things. There's no other reason to allow for the absolute cesspool of garbage they allow on here. The argument that you can't both have tighter moderation and require registration AND allow for anonymous tipster reports is hilariously dumb, even for them, as if every other news site in the world didn't already do that.
It's funny to say anonymous here but perceive social media as not somewhat anonymous or at least differentiating from real life. Having name attached to a comment doesn't deter people from saying things they'd say online but wouldn't say to a person's face. Hiding behind a computer screen gives, regardless of using real name or not, gives people superpowers in hubris, cockiness and stupidity.
That's quite self-aware of you Steve.
But in your case, I would add 'rampant dishonesty' to the 'hubris', 'cockiness' and 'stupidity'.
This board is full of racists, is why. People like the Norwegian or Femke can never do any wrong. But Athing or Sydney - that's a different story.
Oh wow people hold different views about different things. Great job figuring that out, Einstein.
Femke is adored because she's bubbly and sweet, smart, focused, races constantly, gracious to her competitors, and absolutely stunning. The complete package.
Mu is literally the opposite. Spiteful and grumpy and openly contemptuous of the sport.
It's funny to say anonymous here but perceive social media as not somewhat anonymous or at least differentiating from real life. Having name attached to a comment doesn't deter people from saying things they'd say online but wouldn't say to a person's face. Hiding behind a computer screen gives, regardless of using real name or not, gives people superpowers in hubris, cockiness and stupidity.
LOLz, correct. Just visit truth social social for 5min
Femke is adored because she's bubbly and sweet, smart, focused, races constantly, gracious to her competitors, and absolutely stunning. The complete package.
Mu is literally the opposite. Spiteful and grumpy and openly contemptuous of the sport.
What?! You can’t be serious. Mu is all the things you listed about Keely except “races constantly” and that’s only been a change in the last two years since she linked up with Kersee.
This board is full of racists, is why. People like the Norwegian or Femke can never do any wrong. But Athing or Sydney - that's a different story.
Oh wow people hold different views about different things. Great job figuring that out, Einstein.
Femke is adored because she's bubbly and sweet, smart, focused, races constantly, gracious to her competitors, and absolutely stunning. The complete package.
Mu is literally the opposite. Spiteful and grumpy and openly contemptuous of the sport.
It's really that simple.
I wouldn't go this far and I like Mu the runner. She does not give off vibes of excitement or gratitude when she's on the track, but she is a competitor after all and brought home Olympic and WC gold so respect has to be given. BUT I do agree re Femke and IMO athletes like her are a 1,000x better for the sport than Mu who only shows up for a few rounds of racing all year. When you win on the biggest stage you have a chance to give the sport more visibility like Lyles has done. Mu is a wasted opportunity. No, she's not here to please me, but I am one of not many track fans and she doesn't get me excited about track so my opinion matters.
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